[T3] Corn Fuel and Type III engines

[Keith Park]

Yea, guess what happens if you put E85 in your flexfuel vechicle?  You lose
your power AND your gas mileage!  You cant give them away in NY right now,
there's no E85 around anymore and what's left is pricey... and nobody wants
to buy a vehicle with the complication of that fuel delivery system.

Heck, I notice a drop off in gas mileage just going to the winter blend gas!

Keith


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[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Dan Badeer
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:42 AM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Corn Fuel and Type III engines

You're right, Jim.

I live in corn country and we have ethanol plants in many parts of our
State.  We've done a lot of analysis (I'm a financial advisor), and I
can tell you that it's NOT efficient.  Without gov't subsidy, it would
never make it.

Just my .02.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
> On 2 Oct 2012 at 16:12, J. Jonik wrote:
>
>> What do we know about this?...regarding our pre-corn-using gas
>> engines?  It's about the EPA attempt to force drivers to pump at least
>> 4 gallons of one kind of ethanol gas at certain pumps.
>
>> VW engines at the time were designed for both leaded and
> unleaded...but what's the story about alcohol?
>
> Regarding gasahol, there are extremeists at both ends of the
> spectrum. Personally, I've never had a problem, or seen a problem,
> with it.
>
> OTOH, scientifically, it's not at all clear that growing corn to turn
> into ethanol is energy effective at all. It may actually take more
> than a gallon of petroleum to produce the energy equivalent in
> ethanol. What is clear is that companies like Archer Daniels Midland
> (ADM) stand to make a lot of money on this, so they lobby for the
> price supports and ethanol requirements.
>
>
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