[T3] its not the plugs

Thu Oct 3 19:37:07 PDT 2013

Keith I drive on pump 87 with 8.7:1 in the 2110

Brian Fye

> On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:22 PM, "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> It might, the 87 will burn faster but I cant drive it if its knocking and
> pinging!  Heck, the 71 with the stepped heads would knock on the hills in
> the summer with 87.  I suppose I could try a couple gallons next time the
> tank is empty...
> 
> I increased the acc pump stroke last night with washers on each side (the
> left side was already set slightly longer than the right) and now the
> hesitation and stumble at speed are gone, and that was at 45 degrees this
> morning.  It THINK I still noticed a bit of missing but it wasn't bad, at 65
> it ran perfectly.  I want to drive it a few more times with this setup to
> see how it does, and when it get colder... which it will SOON.
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> Top Notch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com 
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
> 87 golf "Winterat"
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian Fye
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:05 PM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] its not the plugs
> 
> Please try 87 and see it improve
>> On Oct 2, 2013 7:52 PM, "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 93 octane, it's a stock 1500 but with flat top pistons, I think that's
>> 7.7:1
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> Top Notch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of B Fye
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:30 PM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] its not the plugs
>> 
>> What octane?
>> 
>> Brian Fye
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:26 PM, "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well I certainly do love my instruments but right now the AFR is not in
>> the
>>> cards, I don't have a bung and I don't have the drill bit for drilling
> it
>>> either.  Just have a few days left before the weather takes a dump for
>> the
>>> rest of the year and Im all done.
>>> 
>>> I put the brazillain plugs back in and increased the accelerator pump
>> stroke
>>> just a bit and Ill see what happens, that wont help the intermittent
>> missing
>>> under throttle but it should get the stumble out, and that's mostly all
>>> that's left now... unless it gets really cold, but I probably wont be
>>> driving it by then.
>>> 
>>> Besides, back in the day these were set up and diagnosed without ANY
>>> instrumentation,  Uh oh, DID I SAY THAT?!?
>>> 
>>> This statement will self destruct in
>>> 5
>>> 4
>>> 3
>>> 2
>>> 1...
>>> 
>>> Poof!
>>> 
>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Top Notch Restorations
>>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian
>> Fye
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:25 PM
>>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>>> Subject: Re: [T3] its not the plugs
>>> 
>>> I will say it again.  Put the A/F meter on it and see what it is doing
>>> where.  RIght now, you are just guessing and that is not the Keith I
>> know!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well the new plugs didn't change anything in the crate, still
>> intermittent
>>>> miss under half or more load and hesitation when accelerating under
>> light
>>>> throttle
>>>> However.
>>>> 
>>>> This is VERY temperature dependant
>>>> 
>>>> 45F, runs fine under light throttle, but stumbles when putting your
> foot
>>>> into it and misses when under moderate throttle.
>>>> 65F, runs much better, but some degree of the above
>>>> 75F, runs perfectly under all throttles.
>>>> 
>>>> The way I have it adjusted now, it is consistant at the above
>> temperatures
>>>> each time I drive it at them
>>>> 
>>>> Now Ive never had an engine that was so dependant on temperature for
> its
>>>> mixture before, (insert Fuel injection comment here)
>>>> But how should I attack this? One more size up in jets doesn't solve it
>>> and
>>>> it actually runs a bit worse and it gets into trouble with short start
>> ups
>>>> This way.  Keep richening the mixture so it runs properly when its cold
>>>> too?
>>>> 
>>>> If I don't get this worked out soon I will have to wait till next
>> spring,
>>>> then I may not have the cold weather for long..
>>>> 
>>>> Keith
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Top Notch Restorations
>>>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>>>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>>>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>>>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>>>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>>>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>>>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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