[T3] its not the plugs

Thu Oct 3 20:03:26 PDT 2013

Ahh, but as you taught me, its not only compression ratio but cam too, and
the rest of the setup.  The crate is bone stock with the exception of the
flat top pistons.  When I had the non-stepped heads in the 71 I would knock
on 89, bad on 87, so I ran 91 or higher on it.

Keith

Top Notch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com 
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71 Squareback "Hothe"
65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
87 golf "Winterat"
93 RX7 "Redstur"

-----Original Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of B Fye
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:37 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] its not the plugs

Keith I drive on pump 87 with 8.7:1 in the 2110

Brian Fye

> On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:22 PM, "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> It might, the 87 will burn faster but I cant drive it if its knocking and
> pinging!  Heck, the 71 with the stepped heads would knock on the hills in
> the summer with 87.  I suppose I could try a couple gallons next time the
> tank is empty...
> 
> I increased the acc pump stroke last night with washers on each side (the
> left side was already set slightly longer than the right) and now the
> hesitation and stumble at speed are gone, and that was at 45 degrees this
> morning.  It THINK I still noticed a bit of missing but it wasn't bad, at
65
> it ran perfectly.  I want to drive it a few more times with this setup to
> see how it does, and when it get colder... which it will SOON.
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> Top Notch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com 
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
> 87 golf "Winterat"
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Fye
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:05 PM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] its not the plugs
> 
> Please try 87 and see it improve
>> On Oct 2, 2013 7:52 PM, "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 93 octane, it's a stock 1500 but with flat top pistons, I think that's
>> 7.7:1
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> Top Notch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of B Fye
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:30 PM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] its not the plugs
>> 
>> What octane?
>> 
>> Brian Fye
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:26 PM, "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well I certainly do love my instruments but right now the AFR is not in
>> the
>>> cards, I don't have a bung and I don't have the drill bit for drilling
> it
>>> either.  Just have a few days left before the weather takes a dump for
>> the
>>> rest of the year and Im all done.
>>> 
>>> I put the brazillain plugs back in and increased the accelerator pump
>> stroke
>>> just a bit and Ill see what happens, that wont help the intermittent
>> missing
>>> under throttle but it should get the stumble out, and that's mostly all
>>> that's left now... unless it gets really cold, but I probably wont be
>>> driving it by then.
>>> 
>>> Besides, back in the day these were set up and diagnosed without ANY
>>> instrumentation,  Uh oh, DID I SAY THAT?!?
>>> 
>>> This statement will self destruct in
>>> 5
>>> 4
>>> 3
>>> 2
>>> 1...
>>> 
>>> Poof!
>>> 
>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Top Notch Restorations
>>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian
>> Fye
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:25 PM
>>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>>> Subject: Re: [T3] its not the plugs
>>> 
>>> I will say it again.  Put the A/F meter on it and see what it is doing
>>> where.  RIght now, you are just guessing and that is not the Keith I
>> know!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well the new plugs didn't change anything in the crate, still
>> intermittent
>>>> miss under half or more load and hesitation when accelerating under
>> light
>>>> throttle
>>>> However.
>>>> 
>>>> This is VERY temperature dependant
>>>> 
>>>> 45F, runs fine under light throttle, but stumbles when putting your
> foot
>>>> into it and misses when under moderate throttle.
>>>> 65F, runs much better, but some degree of the above
>>>> 75F, runs perfectly under all throttles.
>>>> 
>>>> The way I have it adjusted now, it is consistant at the above
>> temperatures
>>>> each time I drive it at them
>>>> 
>>>> Now Ive never had an engine that was so dependant on temperature for
> its
>>>> mixture before, (insert Fuel injection comment here)
>>>> But how should I attack this? One more size up in jets doesn't solve it
>>> and
>>>> it actually runs a bit worse and it gets into trouble with short start
>> ups
>>>> This way.  Keep richening the mixture so it runs properly when its cold
>>>> too?
>>>> 
>>>> If I don't get this worked out soon I will have to wait till next
>> spring,
>>>> then I may not have the cold weather for long..
>>>> 
>>>> Keith
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Top Notch Restorations
>>>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>>>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>>>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>>>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>>>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>>>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>>>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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