[T3] FW: Fuel pumps

[Chad]

I think this whole fuel pump thread with you and Jim would be better
handled in private emails and off the list.


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Adriel Rowley <adriel_rowley at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> ----------------------------------------
> > From: jadney at vwtype3.org
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:04:08 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Try, Try Again
> >
> > On 21 Aug 2014 16:48, Adriel Rowley wrote:
> >
> >> I had the pump rebuilt by Adney, but once I put pressure it leaked
> >> massively.
> >
> > If it leaks around the pump head, I will fix it for free. If it leaks
> > around the motor housing or the connector and I never had those parts
> > apart, I will fix it for the difference in price between the normal
> > rebuild and the complete rebuild, $50, and I will pay the return
> > shipping. If you already paid for a complete rebuild, I will fix it
> > for free and return it at my expense.
> >
> > I don't remember the full circumstances of your repair: whether you
> > paid for a complete or partial rebuild, and whether you installed the
> > pump right away when you got it back. If the pump just needed the
> > partial rebuild (pump head only, usually all that's required) but the
> > pump sat for months after you got it back, allowing the motor housing
> > O-rings to dry out, it will now need those O-rings to be replaced. If
> > that's the case, that work was not needed when I had the pump, not
> > done, and not charged for. If it's needed now, you'll need to pay for
> > it.
> >
> Below this current letter is letter stating that apparently you did a full
> rebuild, considering the cost. Apparently you did not use any new parts (in
> another letter), so I take it to mean you used 40 year old rubber, which
> could explain my experience and doesn't help me feel better... But alas,
> takes two to tango... ;|
>
> > O-rings that have been in use for a long time, absorb a small amount
> > of gasoline. If they are allowed to dry out, they often will no
> > longer seal and will need to be replaced. New O-rings can be stored
> > indefinitely without shrinkage.
> >
> Well then, why did you use old O rings? If I had known this, I would have
> made a huge effort to store the pump in diesel fuel. I even have containers
> here that might be a good size.
>
> > Once again, I'll fix any fault in my work for free. I'll never ask
> > you to pay for the same work twice. But you should not expect me to
> > do new work for free.
> >
> Fine, that is understandable. But, I don't want you making claims that you
> didn't do a full rebuild and therefore can charge. Further, I want to not
> to do like you did last time and wait for me to authorize paid work. I
> check my email at least once in the morning and once in the evening.
>
> > Once I get the pump in hand, I can test it, find the leak, easily see
> > which work I already did, and report back to you.
> >
> Fine, that sounds like a good plan.
>
> > Did you install the pump right away, once you got it back?
> >
> I believe I did, but have not kept any records...
>
> > Do you remember whether you paid $75 for a pump head rebuild or $125
> > for a complete rebuild? That detail would also be on your receipt, if
> > you still have it.
> >
> As per the letter below, I paid a whole $93. Apparently your rates have
> gone up in two years. l.o.l.
>
>
> Thank you so very much!
> Adriel
>
> P.S. I now understand I have a difficult personality and working on
> improving it. I want to have friends and folks willing to help me, rather
> than be a loner struggling to exist. We are all part of a larger group and
> must act in a manner so as to peacefully coexist; war is unnecessary and
> only causes death and destruction.
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------
>
> 1971 Sunroof Squareback with F.I. - In the Process of Being Dog Wgn 2
> 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300TD-T - Dog Wgn
> Master's Student, A.S.U., living in north central Mesa, AZ
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > From: jadney at vwtype3.org
> > To: adriel_rowley at hotmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:56:59 -0500
> > Subject: RE: Fuel pumps
> >
> > Adriel,
> >
> > Your fuel pump arrived safely and I've opened it up.
> >
> > The good news is that the motor ran fine, once the pump head was
> > removed.
> >
> > The bad news is that everything was filled with a mixture of gas and
> > water. This had corroded the relief valve closed, so this will
> > require a rebuild of the pump head to free up the piston.
> >
> > The cost of this will be $93, including return postage. Make that $96
> > if you pay by paypal.
> >
> > In the meantime, you need to drain your gas tank and replace the fuel
> > filter to get all the water out. It's instructive to drain this into
> > a glass gallon jug, so you can see how much water was in there. Note
> > that the water will settle into the bottom if you let it sit
> > overnight. It's also possible that all the water in the system was in
> > the pump, but you won't know that for sure until you drain the tank
> > and inspect the gas that comes out.
> >
> > The old filter will probably be fine if you shake it out and let it
> > sit somewhere dry for a few months.
> >
> > --
> > *******************************
> > Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
> > Madison, Wisconsin, USA
> > *******************************
> >
>
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