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> On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Edward Morton <edward.morton at me.com> wrote:
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: motor vibration. (Max Welton)
> 2. Re: Main bearings use to be BBbbrrrrrr! (Keith Park)
> 3. Re: motor vibration. (Dave Hall)
> 4. Re: type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 40, Issue 18 (Edward Morton)
> 5. Re: pop-out windows on a fastback (Phil Hof)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 14:02:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: Max Welton <max_welton_2k at yahoo.com>
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] motor vibration.
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> You replaced the pressure plate and did not rebalance the rotating assembly. Sometimes you can get lucky doing this. Sometimes not.
> 
> Was there something wrong with the old PP? If you still have it, try reinstalling it.
> 
> Max Welton
> http://www.maxwelton2k.net/
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> On Sat, 1/11/14, ROSS G CLARKE <clarkeross28 at internode.on.net> wrote:
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> Subject: [T3] motor vibration.
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Date: Saturday, January 11, 2014, 2:07 PM
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> Hello to all,
> 
> I have a 1966 type 3 fastback with twin carbs. Recently I
> replaced the heads with new units. Once the motor was out I
> also replaced the clutch plate, pressure plate, throw out
> bearing. I have now noticed a motor vibration when the car
> reaches 1200 to 1500 RPM when the car is stationary. The
> vibration does not seem to appear while driving. My gut
> feeling is a worn cooling fan bush running out of true when
> revs are increased!? I am not experienced in this
> cooling fan arrangement as I have only owned beetles and
> kombis before I restored this fastback.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a probable cause of this vibration.
> Should it be the fan are they easy to replace and does the
> motor have to be taken out of the car to complete the
> replacement? Any advice would be helpful.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ross Clarke (Australia)
> Ross G Clarke
> 0402 487 469
> clarkeross28 at internode.on.net
> Ross G Clarke
> (Ph): 0402 487 469
> (Email): clarkeross28 at internode.on.net
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> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 19:07:10 -0500
> From: "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Main bearings use to be BBbbrrrrrr!
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> Fully warmed up, at idle, NEW engine, about 12PSI oil pressure. Steady
> state on the highway after a half hour at 85F, again, new engine, 38+PSI
> depending on how the pressure relief spring is, this is with a dual relief
> case, but probably the same as a single or similar. All with SAE30.
> 
> ZDDP additives or oils with them are an absolute MUST with these engines,
> just ask any engine builder, they will void their warrantee if you fail to
> show them the receipts.
> 
> Sounds like your OK, although the OP will be a bit low if you or the align
> borer didn't fit the bearings to the case properly and the oil pump isn't
> fit properly either, most new pumps these days are junk, sloppy fits in the
> case.
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> Top Notch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
> 87 golf "Winterat"
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Dennis
> Stiefel
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 3:17 PM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Main bearings use to be BBbbrrrrrr!
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> 
> Ok it was about 60 degrees here at noon today. Went and bumped the starter.
> Was slow but would turn. Took a DVOM to the battery and it had about 12.2 V.
> A little low so I hook our jump box to the battery and boom fired right up
> just like nothing had happened. Let it idle for about 10 minutes then drove
> it for another 10. Hook an oil pressure gage to it right after that and at
> idle it would hold about 12-15 PSI somewhere around 2500 RPM (just a guess
> no tach) about 50 PSI and quick revs would jump it up to nearly 75 PSI. The
> Bentley says 28 PSI at 2500 RPMs with 30W oil so I think I'm OK on oil
> pressure. I'm going to relook at my oil options (I know big can of worms to
> open here). I may just try to find a zinc additive and go back with what I
> used back in the day Castrol 10W40 in the winter and 20W50 in the summer.
> We shall see. The best think thing I can do right now is avoid running it
> when we have these artic fronts come through and just put some more miles on
> it to further break it in. Some meteorologist are saying we could have
> another cold blast like this last one the end of this month I guess we will
> see. If we do Clementine will spend it in the shop. 
> Dennis Stiefel
> 72 Fastback FI MT
> Rainsville, AL
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 01:24:26 -0000
> From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] motor vibration.
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> Hi Ross,
> The clutch components, and very likely the flywheel too, have balancing
> holes or dimples drilled. Where they exist (or there are paint marks) the
> recommendation is that they are fitted opposite. 
> It's also possible to get vibrations due to imbalanced carbs. Once the
> air-flow through the induction system is greater, this tends to disappear as
> the balance hoses can cross-feed to some extent.
> 
> If it's a rattling noise rather than a vibration, check the cover plates and
> muffler insulating plates are all firmly fixed. 
> A long screwdriver or rod held to the ear may help narrow down where the
> vibrations are coming from.
> 
> Dave
> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of ROSS G
> CLARKE
> Sent: 11 January 2014 21:08
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: [T3] motor vibration.
> 
> Hello to all,
> 
> I have a 1966 type 3 fastback with twin carbs. Recently I replaced the heads
> with new units. Once the motor was out I also replaced the clutch plate,
> pressure plate, throw out bearing. I have now noticed a motor vibration when
> the car reaches 1200 to 1500 RPM when the car is stationary. The vibration
> does not seem to appear while driving. My gut feeling is a worn cooling fan
> bush running out of true when revs are increased! I am not experienced in
> this cooling fan arrangement as I have only owned beetles and kombis before
> I restored this fastback.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a probable cause of this vibration. Should it be the fan
> are they easy to replace and does the motor have to be taken out of the car
> to complete the replacement? Any advice would be helpful.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ross Clarke (Australia)
> Ross G Clarke
> 0402 487 469
> clarkeross28 at internode.on.net
> Ross G Clarke
> (Ph): 0402 487 469
> (Email): clarkeross28 at internode.on.net
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> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:55:45 +0800
> From: Edward Morton <edward.morton at me.com>
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> Subject: Re: [T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 40, Issue 18
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> okay, heres the deal, you are breaking the anti spam act and will be reported
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> I HAVE USED THE WEBSITE TO UNSBSCRIBE FROM YOUR CRAP AND I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!! I HAVE REPLIED AND REPLIED TO ALL!!
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> GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:50:45 -0800
> From: Phil Hof <phil.hof at ostronic.org>
> To: type3-vwtype3.org at lists.vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] pop-out windows on a fastback
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> It was welded on the interior of the car, not between the inner and outer panels of the C-pillar, as you can see in this picture:
> http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1154298.jpg
> 
> I was worried a little at first, wondering if the thickness of the new plate would locate the hinge differently, but it seems to open and close just as it should. The buts were welded on the backside, and the plate then welded as shown. I presume they cut out enough of the inner C-pillar to make room for the nuts.
> 
> FYI, I sprung the sunroof addition request on them after the pop-out work was done. They did not have to get inside the C-pillar to do this pop-out work. I suppose I might have made it easier on them if I told him of the sunroof work earlier, and he could have directly welded a nut behind the inner C-pillar while it was cut open.
> 
> But this was an ingenious solution, which only required the headliner to be removed or at least peeled back; I was replacing the headliner anyway.
> 
> -Phil
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> Message: 9
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> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 08:11:45 -0600
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> From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org>
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> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
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> Subject: Re: [T3] pop-out windows on a fastback
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> Message-ID: <52D15121.21092.15C27E at jadney.vwtype3.org>
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> Okay, it's always good to hear from someone who has actually been
> 
> thru this. How did they get the nutplate inside the B pillar? With
> 
> the headliner gone, can it be slipped in from above? On a fasty could
> 
> it be slipped in from below, from the rear trunk?
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