[T3] heater thermostats
Keith Park
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
Fri Oct 31 17:08:01 PDT 2014
I always thought they were there to keep the air released in the passenger
compartment from being TOO hot, but yea... its still hot.
I do get noticably more heat with the thermostats removed and the elbows
plugged.
Keith
Topnotch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.om
http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
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From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of Jim Adney
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:41 AM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] heater thermostats
On 30 Oct 2014 at 16:13, Dennis Stiefel wrote:
> This is the first time Clementine has had a stock muffler since 1984. In
> this time I have had no issues with the way the heater functions as long
as
> I kept the hoses from the fan housing to the heater boxes on. I remember
> someone on here saying at one time on here that when you run an
aftermarket
> exhaust and do away with the hoses coming off the elbows to the heater
> thermostats that you could run the risk of the heat getting so hot going
> into the duct work it could burn the paint off the rockers under the doors
> (I think).
There seems to be a LOT of misunderstanding about how this system
works. The thermostats in those boxes are there to mix cool air with
the heated air in order to give you MORE heated air at reasonable
temps, once the engine gets warmed up. Hence the name mixer box. If
you don't have the ~1" hoses in place, hot air will spill OUT of the
mixer box elbows once the air gets to the thermostat opening
temperature, thus robbing you of heat in the passenger compartment.
If everything else is working well, it's possible that the
thermostats themselves could be overheated and come unsoldered, but I
don't think there's any risk of burning paint anywhere.
The thermostats are okay unless you can look at them and see that
they are expanded even when cool. This is exactly the same as the
engine thermostats. Dead ones are often referred to as "popped." If
you want to test them, you should bolt them into a spare engine
thermostat holder and drop them into water that you heat on the
stove. The holder will keep them from overexpanding and hurting
themselves.
If the whole system is there and working right, even with the mixer
boxes working right, reducing the heater output temperature, Type 3
heaters will still put out very hot air, especially into the rear
footwells.
For best results, you want those ~1" cool air flex tubes to be in
place. I have them in stock and they are cheap, $15/pr plus shipping.
Treat them with care and they will last forever. Note that you will
have to have the ~1" steel pipes that carry that air forward thru the
engine tin in order to install the flex hoses.
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Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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