[T3] Brake Calipers

Steve Panayiotou stevosd at yahoo.com
Tue May 12 23:16:59 PDT 2015


Jim,
I'm a newbie and I have a 69 fastback and I'd like to send you my calipers to rebuild.  How much? What's the time frame?  I haven't removed them yet, so it'll be a week or 2.  

thanks for the great resource you guys are.

Steve Panayiotou
760.583.2750




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> On May 12, 2015, at 22:02, Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
> 
> The difference between early and late calipers comes up here about 
> 6-10 times a year, and is well covered in the Bentley, including the 
> difference in torques that the different mounting bolts require.
> 
> Likewise, the difficulties in disassembling a front axle beam. That 
> also comes up here often. That is DEFINITELY not the simple solution 
> you're looking for. Going that route so that you can install 
> undersize Beetle calipers would be foolish, especially since I doubt 
> you have any idea of how complicated and time-consuming that job will 
> be. It also takes some special tools, and can be hazardous if you 
> don't know what you're doing. And, as Dave pointed out, there is 
> always the chance of damaging some hard to find part.
> 
> You're looking for a simple solution. The simple solution would have 
> been to send me your calipers to rebuild and find alternate 
> transportation for 7-10 days. Yes, depending on a 44 year old car as 
> a daily driver is probably expecting too much. There are just going 
> to be times when a quick simple fix won't be possible.
> 
> I told you that I much preferred to rebuild and return your calipers, 
> so that you would get back exactly what you needed. If you had bought 
> calipers outright from me, without telling me about your '73 front 
> axle beam you would have gotten correct Type 3 early calipers. They 
> still wouldn't have fit.
> 
> Here's what I can offer you. I'm willing to sell you a pair of 
> correct late Type 3 calipers. They will look identical, but they 
> aren't quite the same. They will be marked L & R. You must mount them 
> as marked. They won't be cheap, but if you send me your old calipers 
> afterwards, I'll give you an appropriate core refund. That refund 
> will range from $0-30 per caliper, depending on what I find when I 
> get them apart. I believe you mentioned that one of yours had a 
> broken bleed valve. Note that this automatically reduces its value by 
> $20, just because it's so much extra work to replace. Note also that 
> I won't accept early calipers in place of late ones, but I will 
> accept early ones IN ADDITION to late ones, so you can send me more 
> than 2 if you wish.
> 
> Let me know if you're interested. I have rebuilt calipers ready on 
> the shelf.
> 
> Jim
> 
>> On 12 May 2015 at 18:30, J. Jonik wrote:
>> 
>> To save time and so I don't miss deadline for state inspection, I got two new brake calipers from a place recommended by a VW mechanic in the next state.
>> Slight problem, the holes for the mounting bolts are too small for the bolts. Apparently, I forgot to mention that my axle beam is a '73, though the car's a '71.  Who knew there'd be a difference?So, if the holes line up with the thread holes in the axle assembly, could those caliper holes simply be drilled out wider to accommodate the bolts?
>> Then...before I make the calipers un-returnable, are there any other surprise differences?  
>> Only difference I spot is that the two pins that hold in the pads are a different design.
> 
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