[T3] Today's questions

Tue May 19 17:52:37 PDT 2015

Ohh, I tried I tried...  ;-)

BUT..

You cant!  Unless you want to disrupt the geometry and make for some really
squirrely handling and have no travel left for absorbing any bumps.

Some cut off the bumps stops but there there for a reason and you'll start
breaking torsion bars if you drive it on rough roads.

Basically, you start losing Caster when you start to lower it, then it gets
unstable, and unalignable.  Drop spindles are the only way to go and keep
your handling and suspension travel.

Keith'

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71 Squareback  "Hothe"
65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
93 RX7  "Redstur"
87 Golf  "Winterat"

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From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of Ray Gifford
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:25 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Today's questions

So then, how do you drop the front end?

> On May 19, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Brent Bottolfson <brent at bottolfson.net>
wrote:
> 
> It's been ages since I have posted here.
> 
> For #1:
> Drop spindles have been made by two people:
> 
> Bert in UK made 2 runs of 50 from billet, but they are all sold now.  They
sold for about $700/pair.
> Russell at OldSpeed can weld custom drop spindles using original cores.  A
bit less than Bert's.
> Here is the OldSpeed FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Old-Speed/169701649711870
<https://www.facebook.com/pages/Old-Speed/169701649711870>
> 
> Some people stuff in a Type 1 beam and use Type 1 drop spindles, but most
of us turn our noses as it's a big sacrifice in ride quality.
> 
> -Brent
>> Jim Adney <mailto:jadney at vwtype3.org <mailto:jadney at vwtype3.org>>
>> Monday, May 18, 2015 11:08 PM
>> On 18 May 2015 at 0:32, Ray Gifford wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey gang, decided to use the list to get some question answered.  You
>>> guys seem very willing to sling about your knowledge, so I am holding
>>> out my cup.  I have a 65 notch, 12v (I assume it was converted?), it
>>> has been converted to 4 lug and front discs by PO.
>>> 
>>> 1. I want to put drop spindles on it, and I have been eavesdropping
>>> here about some different front ends around 72?  Do I need to worry
>>> about that and/or figuring out what front end it has on it? Or will
>>> any set of DS work? I assume they have to be type 3 drops?
>> 
>> In order to reuse as many of the parts you already have, you should
>> stick with early, '66-71, Type 3 disk brake parts. That said, I've
>> heard that someone tooled up to make Type 3 DSs, but that project
>> fell thru, or at least they are NLA. Someone else here may know
>> better.
>> 
>>> 2.  My windows suck. Sticky, grabby, very hard to get up and down.
>>> Anyone know of a diagram on how this system is supposed to be so I can
>>> see what I need to do to fix it?
>> 
>> The common problem is dried up grease in the channel that clamps to
>> the bottom of the glass. There's a slide that needs to ride back and
>> forth in that channel and it moves MUCH better with fresh grease.
>> 
>> You have to remove the door panel and then the inner plastic liner.
>> Preserve the liner to reinstall later, as it is critical to keeping
>> water from destroying the door panel when it rains. Once those are
>> out of the way, you can roll the window down partway and see the
>> channel, which actually faces away from you. Still, you can reach in
>> and clean it out with a rag, and then smear fresh grease in there.
>> 
>> This will make a huge improvement.
>> 
>>> 3.  Is a type3 swing axle different than a type 1 SA?  Looking at
>>> replacing mine and have access to a T1 tranny.
>> 
>> They are mostly the same, but there are minor differences. The ratios
>> will probably be different, and if the Type 1 is '73 or later there
>> are differences in the nose cone and one of the main bearings under
>> the nose cone that make swapping difficult or unadvised. There are
>> also differences in the length of the axles that depend on the year.
>> The Type 3 version also has larger brakes. None of this will be
>> obvious at first, but in the end, it's probably best if you can
>> figure out a way to stick with the Type 3 tranny.
>> 
>> Ray Gifford <mailto:ray at mendomail.com <mailto:ray at mendomail.com>>
>> Monday, May 18, 2015 4:32 PM
>> Hey gang, decided to use the list to get some question answered. You guys
seem very willing to sling about your knowledge, so I am holding out my cup.
I have a 65 notch, 12v (I assume it was converted?), it has been converted
to 4 lug and front discs by PO.
>> 
>> 1. I want to put drop spindles on it, and I have been eavesdropping here
about some different front ends around 72? Do I need to worry about that
and/or figuring out what front end it has on it? Or will any set of DS work?
I assume they have to be type 3 drops?
>> 
>> 2. My windows suck. Sticky, grabby, very hard to get up and down. Anyone
know of a diagram on how this system is supposed to be so I can see what I
need to do to fix it?
>> 
>> 3. Is a type3 swing axle different than a type 1 SA? Looking at replacing
mine and have access to a T1 tranny.
>> 
>> Ok... That's all I will hit you with today, tyvm.
>> 
>> Ray
>> 
>> 65 notch
>> 64 bug
>> 69 bus
>> 
>> 
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