[T3] 66 Squareback Now Mine

Craigs List craigslistcsprings at gmail.com
Tue May 26 18:39:27 PDT 2015

hockey stick update:

I called the previous owner. He is a straight and honest guy. I asked him
if the tranny was purpose built for a type 3? He said yes.
I asked if he had a new nose come installed or a new hockey stick? He said
yes, and that the transmission builder had to redrill the hockey stick.
This tells me that it does, indeed, have a type 1 hockey stick, or he would
not have had to redrill it. I don't know if it was an oversight on the
builders part or what.

He did tell me that the shift bushing is brand new. I am still going to
check it, but I am sure it will be OK.

Then he said, when talking further about the install, that he "had to run a
drill through the shift rod because it was just to darn tight to get the
pin back in. So I drilled it out a little bit to make it go back together."
What do you guys think of this? How hard is a shift rod to replace? Could
it be drilled to far out, coupled with the incorrect hockey stick, causing
all of my shifting issues?

What should my next step be?

It was 80 degrees and 100% humidity when I got off work. I couldn't breath
much less work on the car. It is going to take a while for this Colorado
transplant to get used to this North Texas heat, and it isn't even as hot
as it usually is this time of year.

I am still going to mess with the shift plate a little, but I don't hold
out hope for that being able to adjust the ill shifting out. I am thinking
it is going to take a weekend of work and some new parts to tackle this one.

Let me know what you guys think.


On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:

> On 25 May 2015 at 20:40, Craigs List wrote:
> > "If you can't get the shift lever in the right place by moving the
> > lever base, the problem MIGHT be due to the tranny (or just the
> > "hockey stick", being replaced by a Bug part."
> >
> > Can you explain this further? I will try adjusting first. I will look at
> > the bushing too.
> The "hockey stick" is the part of the tranny that has a shaft that
> sticks out the front of the nose cone and inside it has an arm that
> swings around, sort of like a hockey stick, to make the shifts. On
> Beetles, the coupling to that shaft is accessed from above, but on
> Type 3s it's accessed from below. The shaft has dimples to accept the
> fixing bolts from the shift rod coupler: on top for Beetles and on
> the bottom for Type 3s.
> It's fairly common for people swapping trannys to stick in a Beetle
> hockey stick and not notice the difference until they get around to
> installing the shift coupler. By then it's way too late to do a neat
> job, so they do a kludge, and drill a dimple with the tranny and
> hockey stick in place. It's almost impossible to do this accurately.
> I would have thought that if ISP sold something they would have
> jigged it correctly. I hadn't heard of this problem with this ISP
> part. Wouldn't the Type 3 dimple be exactly 180 degrees from the
> Beetle dimple? Frankly, I'm sort of surprised that VW didn't supply
> replacements with both dimples, to make a universal replacement.
> I can probably come up with a Type 3 hockey stick if anyone needs
> one, but note that '72 cars with vacuum adv/retard got a special one.
> I won't have one of those.
> --
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