[T3] 66 Squareback Now Mine

Wed May 27 04:12:35 PDT 2015

Will do been crazy busy settling in here. Just had surgery on my ulnar nerve (funny bone) in my left elbow and I get my cast off today but still no driving a stick for a while :-(

Daniel Du Vall
http://1peter4-10.org
http://volkswageninsanity.us

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From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Stiefel
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:58 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] 66 Squareback Now Mine

Hey Daniel, we still haven't touched base. I'll try to take clementine on a trip over there here soon  and we can grab something to eat over there. Just pm me when would be a good time for you. 
Dennis Stiefel
Rainsville, AL

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> On May 26, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Craigs List <craigslistcsprings at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> You and I made a similar transfer.
> 
> I am in Sherman Texas, just north of Dallas after 14 years in Colorado 
> Springs. You are, indeed, feeling my pain.
> 
> Adam
> 
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Daniel K. Du Vall 
> <dduvall at 1peter4-10.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> I feel your pain I just moved to North Alabama (Huntsville) From 
>> Castle Rock Co but did have 8 months of summer in Lawton Oklahoma to 
>> help prepare me but still way different. What part of North Texas did 
>> you say? I lived in Lindale, TX for 2 years from 2003 to 2005 loved it there.
>> 
>> Daniel Du Vall
>> http://1peter4-10.org
>> http://volkswageninsanity.us
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
>> type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Craigs List
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:39 PM
>> To: Type 3 List
>> Subject: Re: [T3] 66 Squareback Now Mine
>> 
>> hockey stick update:
>> 
>> I called the previous owner. He is a straight and honest guy. I asked 
>> him if the tranny was purpose built for a type 3? He said yes.
>> I asked if he had a new nose come installed or a new hockey stick? He 
>> said yes, and that the transmission builder had to redrill the hockey stick.
>> This tells me that it does, indeed, have a type 1 hockey stick, or he 
>> would not have had to redrill it. I don't know if it was an oversight 
>> on the builders part or what.
>> 
>> He did tell me that the shift bushing is brand new. I am still going 
>> to check it, but I am sure it will be OK.
>> 
>> Then he said, when talking further about the install, that he "had to 
>> run a drill through the shift rod because it was just to darn tight 
>> to get the pin back in. So I drilled it out a little bit to make it go back together."
>> What do you guys think of this? How hard is a shift rod to replace? 
>> Could it be drilled to far out, coupled with the incorrect hockey 
>> stick, causing all of my shifting issues?
>> 
>> What should my next step be?
>> 
>> It was 80 degrees and 100% humidity when I got off work. I couldn't 
>> breath much less work on the car. It is going to take a while for 
>> this Colorado transplant to get used to this North Texas heat, and it 
>> isn't even as hot as it usually is this time of year.
>> 
>> I am still going to mess with the shift plate a little, but I don't 
>> hold out hope for that being able to adjust the ill shifting out. I 
>> am thinking it is going to take a weekend of work and some new parts to tackle this one.
>> 
>> Let me know what you guys think.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 25 May 2015 at 20:40, Craigs List wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> "If you can't get the shift lever in the right place by moving the 
>>>> lever base, the problem MIGHT be due to the tranny (or just the 
>>>> "hockey stick", being replaced by a Bug part."
>>>> 
>>>> Can you explain this further? I will try adjusting first. I will 
>>>> look at the bushing too.
>>> 
>>> The "hockey stick" is the part of the tranny that has a shaft that 
>>> sticks out the front of the nose cone and inside it has an arm that 
>>> swings around, sort of like a hockey stick, to make the shifts. On 
>>> Beetles, the coupling to that shaft is accessed from above, but on 
>>> Type 3s it's accessed from below. The shaft has dimples to accept 
>>> the fixing bolts from the shift rod coupler: on top for Beetles and 
>>> on the bottom for Type 3s.
>>> 
>>> It's fairly common for people swapping trannys to stick in a Beetle 
>>> hockey stick and not notice the difference until they get around to 
>>> installing the shift coupler. By then it's way too late to do a neat 
>>> job, so they do a kludge, and drill a dimple with the tranny and 
>>> hockey stick in place. It's almost impossible to do this accurately.
>>> 
>>> I would have thought that if ISP sold something they would have 
>>> jigged it correctly. I hadn't heard of this problem with this ISP part.
>>> Wouldn't the Type 3 dimple be exactly 180 degrees from the Beetle 
>>> dimple? Frankly, I'm sort of surprised that VW didn't supply 
>>> replacements with both dimples, to make a universal replacement.
>>> 
>>> I can probably come up with a Type 3 hockey stick if anyone needs 
>>> one, but note that '72 cars with vacuum adv/retard got a special one.
>>> I won't have one of those.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
>>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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