[T3] fan rubbing something

Keith Park topnotch at nycap.rr.com
Mon Feb 15 18:08:16 PST 2016


Drag racing engines are a totally different breed, no comparison to a stock
build for longevity as opposed to a high output engine that need to last 8
seconds. Last I needed an oil pump Berg was coating them and installing O
rings as the stock Shadek pumps were no longer reliable.  Raby had the same
problems, couldnt get reliable parts off the shelf anymore and its one of
the reasons he got out of the kit engine market.   REALLY tough getting
quality parts these days.

Keith


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On Behalf Of Daniel K. Du Vall
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 7:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [T3] fan rubbing something

First I have ever heard that and I have hung with some top drag racing
engine builders when I lived in the south western U.S but then again you
will hear many different things depending on who you talk with.
I was more curious about clearances than the volume since they tend to be a
bit thicker. 

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On Behalf Of Keith Park
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 6:17 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] fan rubbing something

Most builders have told me high volume
oil pumps are a major mistake.  you dont NEED anything more than the stock
volume and a high volume pump is higher in volume but lower in pressure, so
you run out of pressure when the engine gets older.

Most aftermarket pumps have such poor quality control that they are a
problem anyway.

Keith


Topnotch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
71 Squareback  "Hothe"
65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
93 RX7  "Redstur"
87 Golf  "Winterat"
 
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Daniel K. Du Vall
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:33 AM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] fan rubbing something

Question on this more curiosity than anything. 
Are the typ 3 able to handle the high volume oil pumps or any of the add on
like the full flow oil filters etc?
Thought of this when the stud issue came up.

Daniel Du Vall
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behalf of Jim Adney <jadney at VWType3.org>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:48 AM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] fan rubbing something

On 14 Feb 2016 at 13:15, Phil Hof wrote:

> Anyone got spare fan shims?  I put in a gasket and one shim, as I had 
> taken those off, but it´s in a new case, so all bets are off.

I have a few spare fan shims, because the engines I've taken apart always
have 2, but I generally don't need any when I put them back together.

Bob's right to suggest looking for interference with the oil pump.
There's plenty of room for a stock oil pump, even the late 26 mm dished cam
version, but the aftermarket 25 mm HD pumps stick out farther and will push
the bottom of the fan housing outwards and cause problems. They can be made
to work with careful clearancing, but there needs to be SOME clearance
there.

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