[T3] Bad day at the (FI) office
Bobsnotch at aol.com
Bobsnotch at aol.com
Tue Mar 15 08:50:03 PDT 2016
In a message dated 3/15/2016 9:58:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
d.nohejl at gmail.com writes:
We’ve been chasing FI problems on and off from the moment we got the car
as a roller in June of 2012, so we’re coming up on 4 years now. I can’t
help wondering if daily driving FI is a bad idea. Everyone says it should be “
set it and forget it” reliable but that’s never been true for us for more
than relatively brief periods. I’ve put 1100 miles on it in less than a
month and I wonder if in driving it like this, we’re pushing the “issue
threshold” of these old components. In other words, maybe those who drive a lot
less see fewer problems simply because they drive less and ask less of
their 47 year old electronics? Of course I say all of this after having to wake
up 45 minutes earlier, triple my commute time, and all of that on account
of the car!
I don't really think that the age of the FI electronics is the problem, or
it being a daily driver, as there are a lot of VW's running around in SoCal
as daily drivers. Granted most of them have carbs, but the FI system is
really just an electronic carb in a type 3 (ducking under the table now), as
it doesn't change the timing, or adjust the fuel mixture to an O2 sensor
reading. It's basically running on whatever the programing in the ECU tells
it to do. Modern FI does change both spark and fuel, which is why quite a
few people are switching to MegaSquirt FI systems. I mean my 88 Astro is
still EFI (that Ray says has the absolute worst in the world connections), and
it's only 19 years newer (or 2 years shy of being 30 years old), but it's
also more complicated. Same can be said of my 92 Geo Prizm, and it's
Japanese electronic FI (has a Toyota engine in it), with some weird things of it's
own, that aren't found in a lot of the older vehicles.
If you really think daily driving an FI vehicle is bad, then maybe you
should convert to carbs. Keep in mind that most of them are at least as old as
your FI system, and parts are available, as is throttle re bushing
services, and adding screw in fittings for the fuel inlets to replace the swaged in
brass fitting (fire prevention). But, needle and seat replacements are
sketchy these days, and are more of a problem than a solution.
Sorry for kind of rambling on, but...
Bob 65 Notch with sunroof
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