[T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 74, Issue 12

Wed Nov 16 15:09:55 PST 2016

Hello All,

To get the plugs out of my single port twin port carb motor I use a 1/4 inch drive with a 3/8 adapter and plug socket driven by a ratchet handle. This combination works well for me and clears the manifolds nicely!  To start the plug off in the head thread I use a 2 inch piece of fuel line (3/8 I think) to wind the plug into the head thread by hand. This gives me a feel for the thread start. Once in I then use the socket combination to wind home (not too tight) !

Even the standard type 3 plug spanner is a bit too big for me!

I appreciate the recent discussion on plug life, its a question I've had for some time.

Sorting out my small electric primer fuel pump. Should have it fitted to my 66 fast back in the next few days, busy with my 1970 S/C project at the moment.

Regards,

Ross (Australia)
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>   1. Re: Spark Plug Life... (Dave Hall)
>   2.  Spark Plug Life... (Gary Forsmo)
>   3. Re: Spark Plug Life... (John Jaranson)
>   4. Re: Spark Plug Life... (Soren Jacobsen)
>   5. Re: Spark Plug Life... (Keith Park)
>   6. Re: Spark Plug Life... (Jim Adney)
>   7. Re: Spark Plug Life... (Dave Hall)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 23:28:29 -0000
> From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
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> Don't forget Sophy has twin carbs - it IS almost easier to drop the engine
> to get those plugs out!  Quite a few owners I know prefer to remove the
> carbs to improve access.  But thanks for the laugh, anyway, Jim!
> 
> VW used to supply a special plug box wrench in the tool roll for those cars,
> with a 1/2" diameter tail for the T-bar.  That clears the throttle linkages
> OK.
> 
> Dave
> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> On Behalf Of Dave Pallo
> Sent: 15 November 2016 15:27
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
> 
> [[[You DO know that you don't have to pull an engine to change the plugs,
> don't you.   ;-)]]]
> 
> LOL - Thanx for the good laugh, Jim!
> 
> 
> 
> Dave Pallo
> 
> '72 Square ~ Elwood
> 
> Fairport, NY
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> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:58:29 -0600
> From: Gary Forsmo <gbforsmo at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [T3]  Spark Plug Life...
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> Good one, Jim.
> I got my allotment of "giggles" for today.
> I'm waiting for John J's response.
> -- 
> Gary "Frito" - '69 Squareback, FI, MT, One-owner
> Rockport, TX (winter)
> Lake Geneva, WI (summer)
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> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 21:07:41 -0500
> From: John Jaranson <john at carartbyjohn.com>
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 6:58 PM, Gary Forsmo wrote:
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>> Good one, Jim.
>> I got my allotment of "giggles" for today.
>> I'm waiting for John J's response.
> 
> Dave Hall beat me to it.....
> 
> It is almost easier to drop the engine to get at the plugs. <G>
> 
> Besides I am dropping the engine to give it a once over anyway.  I want to clean it all up, re-torque everything, might even pull the heads and cylinders and check everything out inside too.  She deserves a little TLC...
> 
> Later,
> John Jaranson
> www.carartbyjohn.com
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> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 18:19:12 -0800
> From: Soren Jacobsen <snj at blef.org>
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> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
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>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Dave Hall <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Don't forget Sophy has twin carbs - it IS almost easier to drop the engine
>> to get those plugs out!  Quite a few owners I know prefer to remove the
>> carbs to improve access.
> 
> Dual port heads: ruining stock Volkswagens since 1967 ;)
> 
> Getting to the spark plugs isn't so bad on single port engines with dual carburetors.
> 
> Soren
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 21:34:34 -0500
> From: "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
> Message-ID: <B1.22.30921.8B5CB285 at cdptpa-omsmta02>
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> if you have a good lower end dont touch it, rings may not get back into that
> sweet spot again but be sure to do a good valve job with new guides and
> exhaust valves, after 60+K my valves were always whipped with all the
> highway use.
> 
> NOthing has been touched on Hothe's engine below the heads and its at 155K
> now!  had her 46th birthday last week and the engines 25th birthday on July
> 17th.  Man, never could I have imagined when I drove out of my parents
> driveway with a new engine 25 years ago that it would still be happily in
> the car all these years later!
> 
> Topnotch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
> 93 RX7  "Redstur"
> 87 Golf  "Winterat"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> On Behalf Of John Jaranson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:08 PM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 6:58 PM, Gary Forsmo wrote:
> 
>> Good one, Jim.
>> I got my allotment of "giggles" for today.
>> I'm waiting for John J's response.
> 
> Dave Hall beat me to it.....
> 
> It is almost easier to drop the engine to get at the plugs. <G>
> 
> Besides I am dropping the engine to give it a once over anyway.  I want to
> clean it all up, re-torque everything, might even pull the heads and
> cylinders and check everything out inside too.  She deserves a little TLC...
> 
> Later,
> John Jaranson
> www.carartbyjohn.com
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> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 00:31:52 -0600
> From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at VWType3.org>
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
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> On 15 Nov 2016 at 23:28, Dave Hall wrote:
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>> VW used to supply a special plug box wrench in the tool roll for those cars,
>> with a 1/2" diameter tail for the T-bar.  That clears the throttle linkages
>> OK.
> 
> I think I've got one of those. I never realized that there was a 
> special purpose to that shape. The one I'm thinking of is large at 
> both ends, but has a long thin center section. Is that it?
> 
> -- 
> *******************************
> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 17:47:56 -0000
> From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
> Message-ID: <BEC9FC14A6904057AA95CCBAD7226AB7 at DavidPC>
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> Mine only has the spark plug box on one end, and two holes drilled through
> at right angles for the T-bar. It may have come with dad's 1500S.  I don't
> think I've had the double-ended with thinner centre length.  I think the
> usual lug nut and spark plug double ended was provided, but I'm not 100%
> sure. Sellers sometimes hang on to a tool kit, for some strange reason.
> 
> I expect the double ended version which I can see in my parts book
> illustration is the one you have.  It would probably fit the twin carb OK.
> Where are the cross drillings for the T-bar - in the narrow section?  Is
> there a large cross drilling for the lug nuts (jack handle)?
> I guess you could simply try it on your plugs and imagine if it would clear
> carbs.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Jim Adney
> Sent: 16 November 2016 06:32
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
> 
> On 15 Nov 2016 at 23:28, Dave Hall wrote:
> 
>> VW used to supply a special plug box wrench in the tool roll for those 
>> cars, with a 1/2" diameter tail for the T-bar.  That clears the 
>> throttle linkages OK.
> 
> I think I've got one of those. I never realized that there was a special
> purpose to that shape. The one I'm thinking of is large at both ends, but
> has a long thin center section. Is that it?
> 
> --
> *******************************
> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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