[T3] Alignment

[Keith Park]

if your rear suspension is not within spec, then something has settled or is
bent. Id avoid the spring plates in favor of air shocks or replacing the
bent part, that stuff back there is hard to bend, so maybe its a bad mount?

Best choice for alignment is a good shop with a quality hunter machine or
the like and then work with the mechanic from the Bentley to show them what
to adjust to change the alignment.   Most techs once they know what the few
simple adjustments are are good to go, IF things arent frozen with rust etc.

Keith


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-----Original Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of Daniel Nohejl
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:04 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Alignment

This detailed technical analysis would be interesting to see. Then, I could
take a simple measurement and see how out of spec I am. To be fair, it looks
like I’m even side to side but my tire wear doesn’t really support the fact
that nothing is wrong.

I talked to two shops in the last few days
..VW repair places, not alignment
shops. The first one hasn’t dealt with Type 3 suspension in many many years
but they said they’d “take a look” if I wanted, which wasn’t very
encouraging.  The other shop works on all kinds of ACVW’s all the time but
they were of the opinion that even just measuring (let alone reindexing) the
torsion arms is such a pain in the butt (and so expensive if paying them to
do it) that it’s more worthwhile to install adjustable spring plates in the
rear like racing and off-road folks do. That way, rear ride height and
camber can be more or less simply adjusted. Anyone have any experience with
adjustable spring plates?

Daniel

> On Nov 25, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Dave Hall <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I have a detailed technical analysis of a 1969 Auto Fastback that was
produced for the motor industry. 
> I'm away from home for a few days, but Jim, John and Bob have copies on
CD. Maybe someone could take a look and see if a dimension is available to
confirm factory ride height. Ground clearance might be shown eg.
> Dave
> UK VW Type 3 and 4 Club.
> -----------------------------
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "William J" <catnine09 at dslextreme.com>
> Sent: ?25/?11/?2016 21:27
> To: "type3 at vwtype3.org" <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Alignment
> 
> Isn't there anyone out there witha 69 SB that can at least measure the 
> height  from  say the top of the rear fender from the lip top center to
the 
> floor which seems to be what Daniel is asking for .
> 
> Fingers and hands all differ and are not very precise. I have a 73 and
know 
> the rear fenders are different or I'd check mine. I never checked mine
when 
> I got to compare to now , who does ? Besides that when I have a load of 
> groceries in the back it seems like it is still the same without the load 
> yet I never checked it. Or perhaps measure the side moldings to ground at
a 
> point near the rear. Isn't possible to have the ride height proper
unloaded 
> yet to low with X amount of weight , it's not like the torsion bars aren't

> weak after years and may drop more at some point than when new.
> 
> There has to be some spec out there in some book someone has, at least I 
> would think so.
> 
> William
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org>
> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 5:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [T3] Alignment
> 
> 
> On 24 Nov 2016 at 14:36, Daniel Nohejl wrote:
> 
>> Rather than just eyeing it up, is there a measurement one can take to see

>> if the rear is sagging too low and then if it´s even side-to-side? Like a

>> measurement from the apex of the curve of the outside of the wheel well
to 
>> the ground or something?
> 
> Place your fingertips on the top of the tire. The wheel arch should
> be pressing gently on the back of your hand if you have stock tires.
> This is a bit of a judgment call, but at least it makes it easy to
> judge side-to-side differences.
> 
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