[T3] Breather cap

Keith Park topnotch at nycap.rr.com
Thu Aug 24 17:59:16 PDT 2017


Sounds like you've done all the proper things.
check the braid where it goes from the solenoid terminal
to inside the starter, in the salt belt these rot off.

Want the car to start on the first compression stroke?
put an extra backflow valve in next to the pump, maintaining that 20psi
or so will ensure quick starts when the mixture is right.

Keith


Topnotch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
71 Squareback  "Hothe"
65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
93 RX7  "Redstur"
87 Golf  "Winterat" RIP
01 Sentra SE "Boremobile"
 
-----Original Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of Daniel Nohejl
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:59 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Breather cap

Our starter hasn't worked since "the incident", cold, warm, or hot. I've had
a hot start relay in place for over a year and even still it'd sometimes not
turn over after a long highway run in the summer. I tried to remove the
relay before the trip we're on and with the relay out, the starter wouldn't
do anything at all, just like now. Relay and starter both click, but that's
it, even when jumping starter terminals with a screwdriver.

The sounds the starter made on the two occasions it worked when I tried to
restart the car after the oil issue were not good. It sounded like a pretty
clear physical/material issue. Jim is going to look at it when we pull it in
the AM to see what's what. 


Also....In terms of starting...I just had the pleasant experience of
starting Jim's 73 Automatic and it fired up instantly with what felt like a
half a turn of the key. Our Type 1 was like that when it had a stock
carbureted motor, but our Type 3 has never done that.  We've had 4 different
motors in our Squareback and the only time they start on the first try is
after they've been warmed up and driven, even with the priming device. Now
what's up with that? I'm jealous!!!


> On Aug 23, 2017, at 8:11 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Starters will tend to not engage when under heat soak, they are OK they
just
> Need an additional relay added to take the current off the ignition switch
> and increase the 
> Voltage a smidge to the stock solenoid and then things work reliably
again.
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> Topnotch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
> 93 RX7  "Redstur"
> 87 Golf  "Winterat" RIP
> 01 Sentra SE "Boremobile"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org
[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> On Behalf Of Bobsnotch at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 7:25 PM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Breather cap
> 
> In a message dated 8/23/2017 3:39:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> phil.hof at ostronic.org writes:
> 
> The  starter probably had nothing to do with it.  The heat soak from long
> freeway trips will often get them to a higher temp than normal, which can
> bring on an incipient failure.
> Yup, we killed 2 used starters going out and back to Colorado in the  type
> 34. I know the heat from Kansas probably didn't help, and it was very hot
in
> the car (116*F in the shade at 4:30pm).
> 
> Bob 65 Notch  w/Factory Sunroof converted to  IRS
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