[T3] '73 Idle Test

William Jahn willjahn975 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 29 09:14:46 PDT 2019

Jim that single black to the double black goes to the starter and also has
continuity with one connector of the CSV plug . It makes no sense why the
two black wire lead into the car. I've never touched that connector or the
one for the pump relay ground to the ECU which is right below it , it's
wires look tan/brown . In the test connector there is a + it's a red/white
wire off starter that comes over the front tin of the engine near the
pressure reg then goes around in the engine harness to the test plug , it's
hot all the time.

 My back up lights work and it is an auto trans.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 5:31 AM Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:

> On 28 Aug 2019 at 18:18, William Jahn wrote:
> >  I looked at the FI diagram page 19 FI section then looked at the color
> > diagram . I see a difference. On the color diagram I see a black wire on
> > #86 on the power relay coil to fuse 11 unfused side then to the ign coil
> > which is hot all the time which might be the two black leads going back
> > into the car. Then on page 19 it shows two wires off the starter into the
> > same connector yet it's not hot. Seems they use that for the hot side of
> > the power relay coil yet it's not hot all the time. What am I missing
> > here?
> The diagram on page 19 does not show the test connector wires. The 2
> wires coming off the starter on that page are from a single connector that
> attaches to solenoid terminal #50 that's hot only while starting. One of
> those
> wires goes to the CSV and the other is #18 to the brain.
> The connector you sent me several photos of, with 2 black wires in one end
> and 1 black wire in the other end, is the wiring for the back up lights:
> one
> wire from the backup switch on the nose of the MT, 2 wires to the backup
> lights on each side.
> The black wire coming off the ignition coil in the colored diagrams is the
> wire
> leading to the backup light switch. This is shown as done on MT cars; I
> believe it's slightly different on AT cars, where the backup light switch
> is built
> into the shift lever mechanism. At any rate, it has nothing to do with the
> FI.
> On the colored diagrams, you'll see diagnostic wires (orange dots) #50
> (hot
> while starting) and + (hot all the time) coming from the starter in '72,
> but only
> + (hot all the time) in '73.
> Your other FI power wires look like they are probably fine, but it would
> make
> sense to check for some voltage drop across the FI main power relay.
> --
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