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I find the easiest way to make the Front to Rear Brake Pipe is in 2 halves with a Connector somewhere  inside the car next to the Central Tunnel. It is much easier to feed and bend the 2 separate sections of Pipe where they need to go at both ends of the car. Find the final lengths needed on the straight, where they need to meet in the middle, then cut them to length and make the Flares “  in situ “.
I do not know what Tools you have to do this “ in situ “ but I bought a Sykes Picavant Hydraulic Flaring Tool when I made all new Brake Lines for my 1972 Squareback, as part of the “ Body Off “ Resto. some years ago. This Sykes Picavant is a Hand Held Flaring Tool intended for that exact purpose of making Brake Pipe Flares on the Car, rather than on the Bench. It makes far better Flares than any basic mechanical Flaring Tool as well.
Regards,
Steve 


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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: New brake line help (Jim Adney)
  2. Re: New brake line help (Jim Adney)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 17:01:06 -0500
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org>
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] New brake line help
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On 27 Sep 2020 at 18:22, Max Welton wrote:

> > He probably lost it because it was toast. Perhaps ISP got you one that's
> > right, but the ones commonly available for Beetles are a couple inches too
> > short for us. I make them myself, from the newish CuNi allow that won't rust,
> > and in the right length for Type 3s.
> 
> Alex sent me one labelled 211 611 741 K.  Looks about the right length
> given the bends I'll need to hit the port on the MC. I'll try it.

That would be a Bus line, so it's likely to be a bit long. Best to tuck the extra 
under the back seat.

> The opening forward of the pedal cluster was covered / closed when the
> pan was done. What would that have looked like?
> 
> https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/2093584.jpg

I'm not sure. I think the lower right corner of that vertical panel was simply 
cut at an angle, leaving a triangular hole between it, the tunnel, and the 
floor. It's not big, just large enough to clear the line nut.

Someone else may remember this better.

> > VW used different styles of grommets every few years. I have some of them,
> > but you'd have to tell me what you need. I can't tell for you. Depends on the
> > size of the hole you're going thru.
> 
> The hole up front is about 15mm and in the rear I see a 20mm on the
> inside and another 15mm on the outside. Sound like something you have
> grommets for? That would be handy.
> 
> https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/2093582.jpg

I'll check to see what I have. Some are new, some used. In that photo you 
can see one of the tabs that are used to hold the line down against the floor.  

Do you need the Tee that mounts to the rear end of that line?

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:09:14 -0500
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org>
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] New brake line help
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On 28 Sep 2020 at 16:03, Max Welton wrote:

> I should be able to source new grommets locally that are new. They're just
> grommets.

You can certainly find something from the electronics world that will keep the 
line from chafing, but the OE parts also seal around the tube, so they also 
keep water out. Maybe use some standard electronic grommets plus some 
caulk to seal around the tube.

To be fair, by the time you cut OE grommets to get them over the line nuts, 
you'll want to seal them with something anyway.

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