[T3] Rattling shifter

[Dave Hall]

Take a look at the sag on the bowden cable between the floorpan and the
transmission bracket - if that's not got about 1/2 to 3/4" sag, it can
judder on 'take off'.

Dave.
UK VW Type 3&4 Club
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-----Original Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Bryon
Garvin
Sent: 07 February 2011 17:37
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Rattling shifter

If I am not having trouble shifting or finding gears, then should I just
leave the stop plate where it is?  I moved it around and it *didn't *get rid
of the sound and it *didn't *make shifting harder.  I could find all gears
no matter where the stop plate was.  So I moved it back to the center.  What
is the proper procedure for adjusting the stop plate?  The Bentley was
somewhat vague.

I do get some rattle/chatter on the stick occasionally when I start from a
dead stop.  Is there a stiffer grease that I should be using in the shift
rod socket to damped that vibration better?  The only moly grease I had on
hand was disc brake grease which I used.  But it doesn't seem to be as stiff
as the stuff that was in there originally.

Thanks,

 - Bryon, '71 Fastback



On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Dave Hall <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk> wrote:

> If it's all the time the car is moving and not when idling, I'd guess 
> it was better transmission of the final drive noise due to the tighter 
> linkages.
>  A
> bit of pressure on the gearstick might be pre-loading something that 
> means the vibrations get absorbed, but it's not good to drive with 
> pre-load on the gearstick.  See how it goes when everything has 
> settled in a bit - you will probably stop noticeing it or it may even 
> go away.
>
> Dave.
> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
> ===================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of 
> Bryon Garvin
> Sent: 06 February 2011 20:16
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Rattling shifter
>
> Ok, it's all back together and a quick thank you to everyone that 
> offered up help and ideas on replacing the bushing.  It all went 
> pretty well.  For me, I found it easiest to pull the rod out, put the 
> bushing and snap ring on at the end of the shift rod where it was a 
> thinner diameter, seat the bushing in the bracket and then have my 
> friend push the rod back in from the front while I was in the car 
> making sure it all stayed in place.  The bushing expanded into the 
> bracket and it was smooth sailing after the rod has been lightly 
> greased.
>
> I then took it for a drive and it shifts very well, but I am getting a 
> strange noise that seems to be coming from right under the shifter.  
> It's kind of a high-pitched whine (as best I can describe it).  It is 
> present in all gears, even neutral, and disappears when the car is not 
> moving.  Moving the shifter around a little sometimes can dampen it.  
> Is this due to the stop plate not being adjusted properly?  If it 
> weren't for the noise, I'd say it's all back together just fine.
>
> I did replace the plastic pieces in the coupler as well as the shift 
> rod bushing, obviously.  I am wondering if those new parts are making 
> the whole system much tighter and I'm now getting some transfer of 
> vibration down the rod.
>
> I'm hesitant to move the shift stop plate because I don't seem to have 
> problems shifting.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
>  - Bryon, '71 Fastback
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Russ W <russw at classicvw.org> wrote:
>
> > On 2/5/2011 4:17 PM, Bryon Garvin wrote:
> >
> >> Just about done with the job....putting it all back together.  Does 
> >> the stop plate have to be in any particular place as far as forward 
> >> or backward?
> >> I
> >> see that it slides forward and back a tiny bit in the elliptical 
> >> holes.  I know about the tabs, so its already installed the correct 
> >> way with regard to that.
> >>
> >> - Bryon, '71 Fsstback
> >>
> >
> > Just install it pretty much centerly located for the first try.
> > Then adjust from there.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Russ Wolfe
> > russw at classicvw.org
> >
> >
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