[T3] Rattling shifter

Mon Feb 7 11:13:47 PST 2011

I did replace that a few months ago and I think I got it right when I
installed the new one.  However, I will double check !!!

I didn't have this problem before the shift rod bushing job this weekend.
 So that's why I suspected something I recently fiddled with.

Thanks,

 - Bryon, '71 Fastback

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Dave Hall <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk> wrote:

> Take a look at the sag on the bowden cable between the floorpan and the
> transmission bracket - if that's not got about 1/2 to 3/4" sag, it can
> judder on 'take off'.
>
> Dave.
> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
> ===================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Bryon
> Garvin
> Sent: 07 February 2011 17:37
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Rattling shifter
>
> If I am not having trouble shifting or finding gears, then should I just
> leave the stop plate where it is?  I moved it around and it *didn't *get
> rid
> of the sound and it *didn't *make shifting harder.  I could find all gears
> no matter where the stop plate was.  So I moved it back to the center.
>  What
> is the proper procedure for adjusting the stop plate?  The Bentley was
> somewhat vague.
>
> I do get some rattle/chatter on the stick occasionally when I start from a
> dead stop.  Is there a stiffer grease that I should be using in the shift
> rod socket to damped that vibration better?  The only moly grease I had on
> hand was disc brake grease which I used.  But it doesn't seem to be as
> stiff
> as the stuff that was in there originally.
>
> Thanks,
>
>  - Bryon, '71 Fastback
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Dave Hall <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > If it's all the time the car is moving and not when idling, I'd guess
> > it was better transmission of the final drive noise due to the tighter
> > linkages.
> >  A
> > bit of pressure on the gearstick might be pre-loading something that
> > means the vibrations get absorbed, but it's not good to drive with
> > pre-load on the gearstick.  See how it goes when everything has
> > settled in a bit - you will probably stop noticeing it or it may even
> > go away.
> >
> > Dave.
> > UK VW Type 3&4 Club
> > ===================
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> > [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of
> > Bryon Garvin
> > Sent: 06 February 2011 20:16
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Rattling shifter
> >
> > Ok, it's all back together and a quick thank you to everyone that
> > offered up help and ideas on replacing the bushing.  It all went
> > pretty well.  For me, I found it easiest to pull the rod out, put the
> > bushing and snap ring on at the end of the shift rod where it was a
> > thinner diameter, seat the bushing in the bracket and then have my
> > friend push the rod back in from the front while I was in the car
> > making sure it all stayed in place.  The bushing expanded into the
> > bracket and it was smooth sailing after the rod has been lightly
> > greased.
> >
> > I then took it for a drive and it shifts very well, but I am getting a
> > strange noise that seems to be coming from right under the shifter.
> > It's kind of a high-pitched whine (as best I can describe it).  It is
> > present in all gears, even neutral, and disappears when the car is not
> > moving.  Moving the shifter around a little sometimes can dampen it.
> > Is this due to the stop plate not being adjusted properly?  If it
> > weren't for the noise, I'd say it's all back together just fine.
> >
> > I did replace the plastic pieces in the coupler as well as the shift
> > rod bushing, obviously.  I am wondering if those new parts are making
> > the whole system much tighter and I'm now getting some transfer of
> > vibration down the rod.
> >
> > I'm hesitant to move the shift stop plate because I don't seem to have
> > problems shifting.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >  - Bryon, '71 Fastback
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Russ W <russw at classicvw.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2/5/2011 4:17 PM, Bryon Garvin wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just about done with the job....putting it all back together.  Does
> > >> the stop plate have to be in any particular place as far as forward
> > >> or backward?
> > >> I
> > >> see that it slides forward and back a tiny bit in the elliptical
> > >> holes.  I know about the tabs, so its already installed the correct
> > >> way with regard to that.
> > >>
> > >> - Bryon, '71 Fsstback
> > >>
> > >
> > > Just install it pretty much centerly located for the first try.
> > > Then adjust from there.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > > Russ Wolfe
> > > russw at classicvw.org
> > >
> > >
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