[T3] Crate's engine apart, mostly...

[John Jaranson]

I gotta agree with Vader.  When I rebuilt Sophy engine almost 10 years and 60k miles ago, I ended up with a static compression of right around 8.5:1.  The only other modification I made was to run an extractor header and single Quiet Pack exhaust.  I almost always run 87 octane fuel.  On the trip out to Colorado, I ran some 89 as a treat for her, but I am sure I didn't need too.  

And remember, I certainly don't take it easy on Sophy's engine.  I am sure I run in nearly wide-open throttle conditions and shift much later than you do Keith. <G>

Later,
John Jaranson
www.carartbyjohn.com


On Sep 3, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Brian Fye wrote:

> Keith,
> if you can't run a stock cam on 8.4:1 compression, something else is
> wrong.  Be looking at your carbs to see if they are not flowing correctly
> and also check to see if you are getting correct advance from the dizzy.
> At a total of 28 btdc, you should have no problems on a stock cam and 91oct.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> Interesting stuff to know, yes, bottom install on the pistons, the load the
>> assembly onto the engine with the pistons hanging out the bottom of the
>> cylinders, Just like the T4!
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> Top Notch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>> 
>> 
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>> Subject: Re: [T3] Crate's engine apart, mostly...
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 9/2/2012 8:25:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com writes:
>> 
>> Its nice  pulling apart an engine that has never been touched.
>> 
>> Couple things I  took note of:
>> The Carbs have no phenolic isolater blocks on them, that  could explain
>> some
>> of the hot start issues. did any of the 1500S's lack  them?
>> 
>> This engine has no aluminum finned baffle under the breather, did  the
>> early
>> cars lack these?
>> 
>> The pushrods have these little rings near  the ends. what were these
>> supposed
>> to be for?
>> 
>> The #3 piston had a  broken top ring, maybe the Eggman put some cheap gas
>> in
>> it? the cylinders  look very good and have a lot of the
>> Hone marks still on them, the honing  looked pretty coarse.  The Domed
>> pistons were in fact in it.  I  have new 1500 pistons and rings, Im
>> inclined
>> to break the glaze and re-use  the 1500 cylinders with flat top pistons,
>> but
>> Id have to have them  ridge-reamed, hopefully RIMCO can do that if they mic
>> out OK.  This  motor only has 33Kmi on it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No, no phenolic spacers. Those were introduced with dual port heads. All
>> they got was the copper "O" seal, and a paper gasket between the manifold
>> and
>> the carb.
>> 
>> Mine had one, but I don't know IF Russ added it, or if it was there
>> originally. I'd have to look in the Blue Bentley to know for sure.
>> 
>> If you're meaning the pushrod end tips (they're the same on both ends of
>> the pushrods), then yes, that's normal. These engines are a cross between a
>> 1600  and a 40 HP. My 64 engine has them too.The pushrods are the old style
>> (40  HP) parts.
>> 
>> Like Brian and Jim, I'd use a "ball style" hone on it, then do some
>> measuring and see what you have to work with. You might find the cylinders
>> are
>> still within spec, and the ridge is just carbon. Keep in mind that our
>> pistons
>> install from the bottom of the cylinder. ;-)
>> 
>> Bob 65 Notch  S with sunroof and IRS (Krusty)
>> 64 T-34 Ghia  (Wolfie)
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