[T3] No oil pressure

topnotch at nycap.rr.com topnotch at nycap.rr.com
Fri May 10 15:03:57 PDT 2013


2 things to check, make sure the pump holes match the case holes, input and output then try filling the filter on the full flow, some FF systems do tend to get air locked but you may have a bad pressure relief valve in the FF system if it has one or on the filter if it has one.

Keith


---- David Sanderson <djsanderson at telus.net> wrote: 
> Hi Folks
> 
> I'm seeking some help as I have run out of ideas regarding my newly built motor -  a motor with no oil pressure. In all the VW engines that I've built I have never had an issue with oil pressure but I have one now. After all the careful work assembling the engine I put it in the car and with some excitement worked on starting it. Well, it started fine but there was no oil pressure. I turned it off and looked at everything but could not find anything obviously wrong. I tried a couple more times - it starts and runs but the oil pressure idiot light won't go out. I know this light and sensor work because there were in the old engine and worked fine.
> 
> I am at a loss to figure out the problem. The engine is relatively stock, a new dual relief case, 1776 with a full-flow system, 26 mm oil pump and a deep sump. Here's what I have done so far. During the build, I blew air though all the galleys and lines to make sure everything was clear and clean and then assembled the engine with much care.
> 
> Since I had no oil pressure and was not willing to continuing running it, so I pulled the engine out of the car and set it on a stand where I could turn it over with a battery and starter and look for problems. I am assuming that with some cranking there should be enough oil pressure to turn the light off. Thinking that perhaps I have made a stupid goof and forgot to put the gears in the oil pump I removed the cover but they were there and everything seemed fine. Turn the engine over and the pump gears move. I then went through a number of steps, including removing the deep oil sump (thinking there was a pickup problem), changed out the Gene Berg oil pump cover plate and used a Scat version, finally swapping out the 26 mm pump and installing a stock 21 mm pump - none of these had any impact. There is still no oil pressure. I installed a t-connector on the oil sending unit situated on top of the oil cooler and installed a mechanical pressure guage and it confirmed, no oil pres
>  sure.
> 
> During this process, I have also separated the oil lines to the full flow system so that I could see the output of the pump directly, into a container. These engines should generate considerable oil pressure at start up and yet I get only a dribble out of the hose.
> 
> I am at a loss as to what to do. It's like the pump doesn't pump or get oil and yet I know there is lots of oil in the case. I could begin to disassemble the engine but I am not sure what I would be looking for. I had thought with your broader experience at these engines someone might have a suggestion.
> 
> Any thoughts, questions or advice would certainly be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Dave
> -------------------------------------
> 1977 911S
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> 1958 Karmann Ghia
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