[T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 44, Issue 23
Fiesta Cranberry
fiestacranberry at gmail.com
Sun May 18 21:52:03 PDT 2014
Brian Fye, we looked at the valve train movement and it was OK. We will
be examining the tips and rods when we take them out---didn't have time
before.
Brion SS, I don't think it could be wear. I use it very little, no hard
work.
We will be removing the old rods and remeasuring, maybe this Tuesday. I
just don't understand what could be making them be too short. We will look
for wear.
Lori
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> 1. Re: Getting Things Done (Mike Fisher)
> 2. Re: Getting Things Done (Adriel Rowley)
> 3. Re: Getting Things Done (Mike Fisher)
> 4. Re: Getting Things Done (Mike Fisher)
> 5. Valve woes (Fiesta Cranberry)
> 6. Re: Valve woes (B Fye)
> 7. Re: Valve woes (Brion Sabbatino)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:36:29 -0700
> From: Mike Fisher <fisherfarms at gmail.com>
> To: T3 List <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Getting Things Done
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> If it is pretty clean & complete I would advertise it in Hemmings Motor
> News if she wants a top dollar price? Buy a copy and see what they are
> listed for. The Auction could only be $500-$2,000?
>
>
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Adriel Rowley <adriel_rowley at hotmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hey all, like some help if you all can; be much appreciated.
> >
> > I am in Sandy Eggo helping to get things sorted/clean out at Oma's. One
> > task is get the Chevrolet sold. Talked some more about plans, and she
> said
> > that when she called an action house in November they gave her a range
> they
> > sell for. Now we are thinking it might be easier and faster just to go
> this
> > route. However, she didn't keep track which one it was...
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > How does one find a good auction company?
> >
> > What is reasonable?
> >
> > I figure this might be pertinent to others who might be faced with the
> > hard task of selling an auto and you all have been such a help in the
> past.
> >
> >
> > Thank you so very much!
> > Adriel
> >
> > -------------------------
> >
> > 1971 Sunroof Squareback with F.I.
> > 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300TD-T - Dog Wgn
> > Master's Student, A.S.U., living in north central Mesa, AZ
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> From: Adriel Rowley <adriel_rowley at hotmail.com>
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> > Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:36:29 -0700
> > From: fisherfarms at gmail.com
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Getting Things Done
> >
> > If it is pretty clean & complete I would advertise it in Hemmings Motor
> > News if she wants a top dollar price? Buy a copy and see what they are
> > listed for. The Auction could only be $500-$2,000?
> >
> The missing auction house said the range was $2,000 (beat out parts auto)
> to $20,000 (fully restored). Thus why I am frustrated Oma lost the
> information as the last offer years ago was $4,800 (she was $5,000 firm).
>
> Guess I wasn't clear... I will soon be leaving for home. It takes months
> to sell an auto, so that will not work. Plus, it could be unsafe. Further,
> they wouldn't be able to test drive but ten feet as blocked in and we are
> not able to unblock unless it is going to be permanently gone.
>
>
> Thank you so very much!
> Adriel
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:17:56 -0700
> From: Mike Fisher <fisherfarms at gmail.com>
> To: T3 List <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Getting Things Done
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> You & Oma have been talking, but not advertising for 10+ years! She
> doesn't need you there to sell her car. Leave it blocked in and they can't
> sneak back & steal it until they pay her for it!
>
>
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Adriel Rowley <adriel_rowley at hotmail.com
> >wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > > Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:36:29 -0700
> > > From: fisherfarms at gmail.com
> > > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > > Subject: Re: [T3] Getting Things Done
> > >
> > > If it is pretty clean & complete I would advertise it in Hemmings Motor
> > > News if she wants a top dollar price? Buy a copy and see what they are
> > > listed for. The Auction could only be $500-$2,000?
> > >
> > The missing auction house said the range was $2,000 (beat out parts auto)
> > to $20,000 (fully restored). Thus why I am frustrated Oma lost the
> > information as the last offer years ago was $4,800 (she was $5,000 firm).
> >
> > Guess I wasn't clear... I will soon be leaving for home. It takes months
> > to sell an auto, so that will not work. Plus, it could be unsafe.
> Further,
> > they wouldn't be able to test drive but ten feet as blocked in and we are
> > not able to unblock unless it is going to be permanently gone.
> >
> >
> > Thank you so very much!
> > Adriel
> >
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> Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 06:31:04 -0700
> From: Mike Fisher <fisherfarms at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [T3] Getting Things Done
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> Joe Petralia would buy it if You get a hold of him & Oma's price is
> realistic?
> https://www.facebook.com/joe.petralia.9?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab
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>
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Mike Fisher <fisherfarms at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You & Oma have been talking, but not advertising for 10+ years! She
> > doesn't need you there to sell her car. Leave it blocked in and they
> can't
> > sneak back & steal it until they pay her for it!
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Adriel Rowley <
> adriel_rowley at hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------
> >> > Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:36:29 -0700
> >> > From: fisherfarms at gmail.com
> >> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [T3] Getting Things Done
> >> >
> >> > If it is pretty clean & complete I would advertise it in Hemmings
> Motor
> >> > News if she wants a top dollar price? Buy a copy and see what they are
> >> > listed for. The Auction could only be $500-$2,000?
> >> >
> >> The missing auction house said the range was $2,000 (beat out parts
> auto)
> >> to $20,000 (fully restored). Thus why I am frustrated Oma lost the
> >> information as the last offer years ago was $4,800 (she was $5,000
> firm).
> >>
> >> Guess I wasn't clear... I will soon be leaving for home. It takes months
> >> to sell an auto, so that will not work. Plus, it could be unsafe.
> Further,
> >> they wouldn't be able to test drive but ten feet as blocked in and we
> are
> >> not able to unblock unless it is going to be permanently gone.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you so very much!
> >> Adriel
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> VWType3.Org mailing list - type3 at vwtype3.org
> >> http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org
> >> Contact gregm at vwtype3.org if you need help with the list.
> >>
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> From: Fiesta Cranberry <fiestacranberry at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [T3] Valve woes
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> Hi all,
> Haven't posted in a long time, no problems since the new engine until now.
>
> Background: We converted my '71 SB automatic (The Baroness) from FI to
> stock carbs in 2008. Except for minor adjustment, etc, she's been problem
> free. She gets very light use. I've probably put less than 10,000 miles
> on her since the conversion.
>
> Problems: this year, I started having fuel pump (mechanical) failures.
> Replaced it twice with the $30 Brazilian job from MWM. They went out
> pretty fast, so I had a NOS one refurbished and installed. Seems to be OK.
> We also replaced the fuel line, thinking it may have been rusty.
>
> Now, I'm having valve problems. The # 1& 3 valves keep getting really
> loose. The rocker arms have almost no resistance when when I move them,
> they're floppy. It's like the pushrods are too short, even tho we measured
> them. We replaced the pushrods with longer ones (yes, we measured) and now
> it's happened again. They are not bent or damaged in any visible way. My
> friend John thinks it needs a valve job, like maybe the valves are stuck.
> But it gets such light use, that's hard to believe on a new engine.
>
> When we rebuilt the engine, everything was new except the case and the
> camshaft. We had the case rebored and cleaned. We had the camshaft
> refurbished (not sure of the correct word). The engine has performed
> beautifully until now.
>
> We turned the engine by hand yesterday to see if the camshaft was lifting
> as it should, thinking it might have cracked. It lifted OK. We are
> stumped as to why this is happening.
>
> I don't think replacing the push rods again without knowing what is going
> wrong is a good idea.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Lori & The Baroness, 1971 SB no longer FI
>
>
>
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> won out over it."
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 12:43:27 -0700
> From: B Fye <bfye at canyonville.net>
> To: "type3 at vwtype3.org" <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Valve woes
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> First watch the valve train move... Make sure you are getting full lift
> and full close.
> If yes, look at the pushrods ends and all the valve tips to make sure
> nothing has mushroomed.
>
> Brian Fye
>
> > On May 18, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Fiesta Cranberry <
> fiestacranberry at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Haven't posted in a long time, no problems since the new engine until
> now.
> >
> > Background: We converted my '71 SB automatic (The Baroness) from FI to
> > stock carbs in 2008. Except for minor adjustment, etc, she's been
> problem
> > free. She gets very light use. I've probably put less than 10,000 miles
> > on her since the conversion.
> >
> > Problems: this year, I started having fuel pump (mechanical) failures.
> > Replaced it twice with the $30 Brazilian job from MWM. They went out
> > pretty fast, so I had a NOS one refurbished and installed. Seems to be
> OK.
> > We also replaced the fuel line, thinking it may have been rusty.
> >
> > Now, I'm having valve problems. The # 1& 3 valves keep getting really
> > loose. The rocker arms have almost no resistance when when I move them,
> > they're floppy. It's like the pushrods are too short, even tho we
> measured
> > them. We replaced the pushrods with longer ones (yes, we measured) and
> now
> > it's happened again. They are not bent or damaged in any visible way.
> My
> > friend John thinks it needs a valve job, like maybe the valves are stuck.
> > But it gets such light use, that's hard to believe on a new engine.
> >
> > When we rebuilt the engine, everything was new except the case and the
> > camshaft. We had the case rebored and cleaned. We had the camshaft
> > refurbished (not sure of the correct word). The engine has performed
> > beautifully until now.
> >
> > We turned the engine by hand yesterday to see if the camshaft was lifting
> > as it should, thinking it might have cracked. It lifted OK. We are
> > stumped as to why this is happening.
> >
> > I don't think replacing the push rods again without knowing what is going
> > wrong is a good idea.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Lori & The Baroness, 1971 SB no longer FI
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "I wrestled with reality for 36 years, and I'm happy to say I've finally
> > won out over it."
> > ---Elwood P. Dowd
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 14:24:08 -0600
> From: Brion Sabbatino <brionsab at msn.com>
> To: type3 <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Valve woes
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> Just a thought. Could the cam shaft or lifters have worn?
> Brion S.S. Utah
>
> > From: bfye at canyonville.net
> > Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 12:43:27 -0700
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Valve woes
> >
> > First watch the valve train move... Make sure you are getting full lift
> and full close.
> > If yes, look at the pushrods ends and all the valve tips to make sure
> nothing has mushroomed.
> >
> > Brian Fye
> >
> > > On May 18, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Fiesta Cranberry <
> fiestacranberry at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > Haven't posted in a long time, no problems since the new engine until
> now.
> > >
> > > Background: We converted my '71 SB automatic (The Baroness) from FI to
> > > stock carbs in 2008. Except for minor adjustment, etc, she's been
> problem
> > > free. She gets very light use. I've probably put less than 10,000
> miles
> > > on her since the conversion.
> > >
> > > Problems: this year, I started having fuel pump (mechanical) failures.
> > > Replaced it twice with the $30 Brazilian job from MWM. They went out
> > > pretty fast, so I had a NOS one refurbished and installed. Seems to
> be OK.
> > > We also replaced the fuel line, thinking it may have been rusty.
> > >
> > > Now, I'm having valve problems. The # 1& 3 valves keep getting really
> > > loose. The rocker arms have almost no resistance when when I move
> them,
> > > they're floppy. It's like the pushrods are too short, even tho we
> measured
> > > them. We replaced the pushrods with longer ones (yes, we measured)
> and now
> > > it's happened again. They are not bent or damaged in any visible way.
> My
> > > friend John thinks it needs a valve job, like maybe the valves are
> stuck.
> > > But it gets such light use, that's hard to believe on a new engine.
> > >
> > > When we rebuilt the engine, everything was new except the case and the
> > > camshaft. We had the case rebored and cleaned. We had the camshaft
> > > refurbished (not sure of the correct word). The engine has performed
> > > beautifully until now.
> > >
> > > We turned the engine by hand yesterday to see if the camshaft was
> lifting
> > > as it should, thinking it might have cracked. It lifted OK. We are
> > > stumped as to why this is happening.
> > >
> > > I don't think replacing the push rods again without knowing what is
> going
> > > wrong is a good idea.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Lori & The Baroness, 1971 SB no longer FI
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "I wrestled with reality for 36 years, and I'm happy to say I've
> finally
> > > won out over it."
> > > ---Elwood P. Dowd
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