[T3] Today's questions

Ray Gifford ray at mendomail.com
Tue May 19 09:24:47 PDT 2015


So then, how do you drop the front end?


> On May 19, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Brent Bottolfson <brent at bottolfson.net> wrote:
> 
> It's been ages since I have posted here.
> 
> For #1:
> Drop spindles have been made by two people:
> 
> Bert in UK made 2 runs of 50 from billet, but they are all sold now.  They sold for about $700/pair.
> Russell at OldSpeed can weld custom drop spindles using original cores.  A bit less than Bert's.
> Here is the OldSpeed FB page:  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Old-Speed/169701649711870 <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Old-Speed/169701649711870>
> 
> Some people stuff in a Type 1 beam and use Type 1 drop spindles, but most of us turn our noses as it's a big sacrifice in ride quality.
> 
> -Brent
>> Jim Adney <mailto:jadney at vwtype3.org <mailto:jadney at vwtype3.org>>
>> Monday, May 18, 2015 11:08 PM
>> On 18 May 2015 at 0:32, Ray Gifford wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey gang, decided to use the list to get some question answered.  You
>>> guys seem very willing to sling about your knowledge, so I am holding
>>> out my cup.  I have a 65 notch, 12v (I assume it was converted?), it
>>> has been converted to 4 lug and front discs by PO.
>>> 
>>> 1. I want to put drop spindles on it, and I have been eavesdropping
>>> here about some different front ends around 72?  Do I need to worry
>>> about that and/or figuring out what front end it has on it? Or will
>>> any set of DS work? I assume they have to be type 3 drops?
>> 
>> In order to reuse as many of the parts you already have, you should
>> stick with early, '66-71, Type 3 disk brake parts. That said, I've
>> heard that someone tooled up to make Type 3 DSs, but that project
>> fell thru, or at least they are NLA. Someone else here may know
>> better.
>> 
>>> 2.  My windows suck. Sticky, grabby, very hard to get up and down.
>>> Anyone know of a diagram on how this system is supposed to be so I can
>>> see what I need to do to fix it?
>> 
>> The common problem is dried up grease in the channel that clamps to
>> the bottom of the glass. There's a slide that needs to ride back and
>> forth in that channel and it moves MUCH better with fresh grease.
>> 
>> You have to remove the door panel and then the inner plastic liner.
>> Preserve the liner to reinstall later, as it is critical to keeping
>> water from destroying the door panel when it rains. Once those are
>> out of the way, you can roll the window down partway and see the
>> channel, which actually faces away from you. Still, you can reach in
>> and clean it out with a rag, and then smear fresh grease in there.
>> 
>> This will make a huge improvement.
>> 
>>> 3.  Is a type3 swing axle different than a type 1 SA?  Looking at
>>> replacing mine and have access to a T1 tranny.
>> 
>> They are mostly the same, but there are minor differences. The ratios
>> will probably be different, and if the Type 1 is '73 or later there
>> are differences in the nose cone and one of the main bearings under
>> the nose cone that make swapping difficult or unadvised. There are
>> also differences in the length of the axles that depend on the year.
>> The Type 3 version also has larger brakes. None of this will be
>> obvious at first, but in the end, it's probably best if you can
>> figure out a way to stick with the Type 3 tranny.
>> 
>> Ray Gifford <mailto:ray at mendomail.com <mailto:ray at mendomail.com>>
>> Monday, May 18, 2015 4:32 PM
>> Hey gang, decided to use the list to get some question answered. You guys seem very willing to sling about your knowledge, so I am holding out my cup. I have a 65 notch, 12v (I assume it was converted?), it has been converted to 4 lug and front discs by PO.
>> 
>> 1. I want to put drop spindles on it, and I have been eavesdropping here about some different front ends around 72? Do I need to worry about that and/or figuring out what front end it has on it? Or will any set of DS work? I assume they have to be type 3 drops?
>> 
>> 2. My windows suck. Sticky, grabby, very hard to get up and down. Anyone know of a diagram on how this system is supposed to be so I can see what I need to do to fix it?
>> 
>> 3. Is a type3 swing axle different than a type 1 SA? Looking at replacing mine and have access to a T1 tranny.
>> 
>> Ok... That's all I will hit you with today, tyvm.
>> 
>> Ray
>> 
>> 65 notch
>> 64 bug
>> 69 bus
>> 
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