[T3] WOW! the RUST!

Bobsnotch at aol.com Bobsnotch at aol.com
Wed Apr 20 20:20:21 PDT 2016


Yup, same here. Too many idiots that either forgot how to drive in the  
snow, or didn't learn how to drive in the snow, and think they know how to. Add 
 in all those urban assault vehicles with 4 wheel drive that are going 20+ 
mph  faster than conditions would allow, and you're taking your life into 
your own  hands out there. While a rear engined VW would be a great winter 
car, there's no  way I'd drive one in the winter around here. And with they way 
they salt around  here, you really need a disposable winter instead of a 
type 3 for winter  use.
Bob 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/20/2016 9:59:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
topnotch at nycap.rr.com writes:
 
biggest  problem here is that nobody will spend the money on snowtires
anymore,  despite the fact that technology has moved the snowtire to the 
point of  leaving black marks in the snow they are so good.  The low  
profile
tires are very expensive to make in snows, and not nearly as good,  so folks
do without and creep along at 5mph when it snows and tie up  traffic so they
push for the salt so the roads are clear.

My Father  bought the Opel new in 75, drove it for 20 years and I used it as
a winter  car for 5 more, before restoring it.  an EXCELLENT Zebart job  and
careful oiling preserved it pretty well, but Opel exhaust parts and  brakes
were getting too hard to find and it was just impractical to keep it  going
in the winter, and of course... there are still many things that you  cant
protect from the salt.

Keith


Topnotch  Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
71  Squareback  "Hothe"
65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
93 RX7   "Redstur"
87 Golf  "Winterat"


-----Original  Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org  
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On Behalf Of Brion  Sabbatino
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 9:30 PM
To: type3
Subject:  Re: [T3] WOW! the RUST!

Nice that it is in a collection. Have no seen  an opel in years. Not even in
the west. I certainly do not miss the snow  and salt if the East. The 
salting
is just idiotic. Let them plow and let  drivers mount snow tires every year.
Simple.

-------- Original  message --------
From: Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
Date:  4/20/2016  7:19 PM  (GMT-07:00)
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject:  Re: [T3] WOW!  the RUST!

My winter car is a winter car for the  winter car... the old winter car was
the Opel, but since those are rarer  than T3's I finally restored it and 
kept
it out of the salt, its in an Opel  collection in Toronto now after I sold
it.

Keith


Topnotch  Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
71  Squareback  "Hothe"
65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
93 RX7   "Redstur"
87 Golf  "Winterat"


-----Original  Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org  
[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of  Bobsnotch at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 8:33 PM
To:  type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] WOW! the RUST!

In a message  dated 4/20/2016 8:18:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
topnotch at nycap.rr.com  writes:

I  crawled under Winterat to replace the rear muffler and  was shocked at
what
I found!  This is the heart of the rust  belt,

So its  expected to see things rusting pretty fast under  there but this
year,
anything that didn't have oil on it was vastly  more

Rusty that  any previous year and this past winter was a  pretty short one!
Brakes,  exhaust, rims.  all rusting up faster  than ever before!

I know  they have been using magnesium chloride  on the state roads for a
while, and  even Beet juice, YES  Beet  juice!  But this year they  started

Brining, with special  brining trucks, on all the interstates  and some of
the
county  roads.. But what is IN that brine?  What  happens when you MIX  the
Magnesium with Salt?  Do we have any chemists  here?  My  poor little Golf!
Whatever they are doing its causing the  rust to  speed way up..

NASTY NASTY stuff in those brine trucks, but  what  is it?



I think Ill keep the Golf on the road thru a  couple  more good rains, don't
want to be driving Hothe thru any  puddles for a  while yet till I know its
all washed off.  I  haven't seen them washing  down the bridges yet or any 
of
the  Zambonies run thru the  neighborhood..
I hear you Keith. I don't know  what they're using either, but I've  got get
in and do some repair  work on my Geo Prizm, as the plastic bumper cover  is
trying to fall  off. I've already had to replace a section of rear frame
rail  on it,  just to hold the muffler up and in place. It's beginning to
look
like  I  need a winter car, for the winter car with the way it's  rusting
out.
The things we do to save our beloved Type 3s.

Bob 65  Notch  S with Sunroof
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