[T3] 412 Brake Caliper Question

[William J]

 Thanks Bob and Jim :

  When I added the 6 pints I only drove it for three miles and the fluid 
felt pretty hot , Bentley says warm what ever that means. Haynes says less 
fluid 5 pints 4 oz for a service fill and 11.2 oz  from low to high mark . 
bentley has it at 6 pint's 5 oz and 13.5 oz low to high mark.

  With 6 pint's and after the 3 mile drive fluid pretty warm since it was a 
hot day all the fluid in the filler tube must have drained down and I saw 
only fluid the width of the stick to the first mark . I added the 5 oz per 
Bentley and let the engine running and shifted through drive and reverse 
several times and waited a good 30 minutes and the level was just a bit 
above the lower mark . Then I added 3 more oz and did the same shifting D 
and R engine still running and only then was the fluid filling the upper 
mark and across the entire stick and a slight wipe above the upper mark .

 It's pretty rare for me to do freeway driving to get it really hot . I have 
no reason to get on the freeway here since it's madness on our freeways , 
lucky it you can run 50 MPH or 60 for more than 10 minutes.

 I feel better with the fluid at the high mark . I really need to pour 
what's left of the trans fluid in that gallon container since reading the 
sort of clear level indicator on the container is not easy . I will pour 
what's left in a measuring cup to see how much I really put in there. From 
what I could tell I put 7 pints total which is 11 oz more than the 6 pint's 
5 oz. . Then again if I knew where the 6 pint's 5 oz put's the level on the 
stick trans hot it would make more sense.

William


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Bobsnotch at aol.com>
To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [T3] 412 Brake Caliper Question


> In a message dated 3/14/2016 12:02:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> catnine09 at dslextreme.com writes:
>
> When I first filled the drained trans to the 6 pints and didn't add the 5
> oz . What I described above was the result . Then I added the 5 oz and the
> fluid appeared to be more visable above the first mark ( was not half the
> width of the stick ) yet it was not really filling the groove on the high
> mark so I added another 3 oz and this seemed to fill the high mark groove
> and the slight bit above that high mark was more or less a thin short wipe
> not something I felt was to  much fluid.
>
> How warm do you have the trans when checking the level? Normally I'll do 
> an
> 11 mile run, with some highway speeds mixed in, just to make sure
> everything is  really warmed up. I've found that by doing this, I can get 
> a good
> read on the  fluid level, and if I need to add a little more, it'll be 
> just
> right for normal  use afterwards. if you haven't done something like that 
> to
> get the trans up to  operating temp, then your level might still be higher
> than you want. I only say  that, as transmission fluid expands when it 
> warms up.
>
> What you might find, is that while you're slightly above the mark while
> semi-warm-still kind of cool, that once up to true operating temperature 
> you
> might find that you're either above the upper line, depending how much
> you've  actually worked the trans (reverse and forward directions).
>
> If you're having trouble reading/seeing the upper line, you might want to
> do like GM did in the later years, and drill a small hole in the stick at
> the  upper line. This seems to make seeing where the level is a lot 
> easier.
> Just my take from dealing with automatic transmissions over the years. I
> hope this helps.
>
> Bob 65 Notch  with sunroof
>
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