[T3] Why is it that when I got my 73 SBIneverhadtoturnthekeysevera...

Sat Aug 12 14:45:37 PDT 2017

That sounds perfectly Normal, it should hold for an hour or 2 till the
engine cools down then slowly leak out.

Keith

Topnotch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
71 Squareback  "Hothe"
65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
93 RX7  "Redstur"
87 Golf  "Winterat" RIP
01 Sentra SE "Boremobile"

-----Original Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of William J
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:58 AM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Why is it that when I got my 73
SBIneverhadtoturnthekeysevera...

I ran my engine to set the fuel pressure and it held 18 PSI for 3 1/2 hours 
yet the next morning it was down to zero which is what I expected to see. 
Seems as if the check valve in the pump is not holding and I'm hoping it 
will last until I can at least get a airtek of similar then send my original

to Jim . It all just depends on funds it does at least hold for 3 1/2 hours 
maybe longer I only had time to check it after that amount of time . I can't

say if the regulator would also allow pressure to leak down and as far as I 
know the only way to tell is build pressure and use a fuel line clamp that 
pinches the line like the ones used to change the filter . I have 4 or them 
. Pinch off the pressure line and see and then if it holds the pump may be 
it , if not same thing only the line before the regulator to see if that 
lets the pressure bleed down.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [T3] Why is it that when I got my 73 SB 
Ineverhadtoturnthekeysevera...

>I never had any issues,I put about 6000mi a year on the car. I rebuilt the
> pump to avoid them.
> If the relief valve leaks you will need a bit more time to bring
> the pressure back up after sitting though and that means a bit more
> cranking.
>
> Keith
>
>
> Topnotch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
> 93 RX7  "Redstur"
> 87 Golf  "Winterat" RIP
> 01 Sentra SE "Boremobile"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org 
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> On Behalf Of William J
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:46 PM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Why is it that when I got my 73 SB I
> neverhadtoturnthekeysevera...
>
> Keith , this is a 71 SB I see in your list of cars? Is the engine 
> basically
> stock? If so the time frame before you had any issues is very close to 
> when
> Mine began to have issues give or take a few years because I just don't
> recall exactly when mine needed the priming deal. If I were to guess 2013
> only because in June 2012 it was in a body shop for the first time ever 
> for
> a month to fix mainly damage that wrecked the front bumper from a red 
> light
> runner . If it had that issue I would have brought it up. I don't recall 
> how
>
> long after that the issue began. I didn't drive it much then either, less
> than 300 miles per year.  It was a glancing blow on the right side front
> bumper guard that didn't do great damage to anything other than the force 
> on
>
> that guard and the right bumper bracket mainly shifted the front body to 
> the
>
> left about 1/2" didn't bend anything else like the frame . Perhaps that 
> blow
>
> was enough to start the fuel pump to act up I have no idea the pump and 
> all
> else was never touched or the beam didn't even slide my car or move it to
> the side it did affect the fuel gauge a bit yet I didn't make note of it ,
> it just seemed to read a bit different and I checked everything and feel
> it's the sending unit which always did to seem to jump when it got near 
> 1/4
> tank .
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [T3] Why is it that when I got my 73 SB I never
> hadtoturnthekeysevera...
>
>
>> Reliability, the pump hadnt failed but the car got a total resto in 
>> 2007-9
>> and I didnt want to worry.  the car has never needed a primer switch,
>> before or after the pump rebuild.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> Topnotch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
>> 93 RX7  "Redstur"
>> 87 Golf  "Winterat" RIP
>> 01 Sentra SE "Boremobile"
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of William J
>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 12:48 PM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Why is it that when I got my 73 SB I never
>> hadtoturnthekey
>> severa...
>>
>> Keith what was the issue you had that you needed your pump rebuilt? I get
>> the impression even Jim uses a primer switch as other do even with stock
>> OE
>> pumps . I may be wrong if Jim uses a switch.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
>> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 6:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Why is it that when I got my 73 SB I never had
>> toturnthekey severa...
>>
>>
>> I had Jim rebuild my OEM pump years ago and its worked fine since!  well
>> worth the $$ to keep the bosch quality in there and he installs a much
>> more
>> robust check valve.  I did add a backflow valve to keep pressure up 
>> better
>> than the check valve does but thats only because I like mine to start on
>> the
>> first compression stroke rather than cranking it.
>>
>> Ive never had the starting problems some cars have that need the
>> additional
>> priming.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> Topnotch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
>> 93 RX7  "Redstur"
>> 87 Golf  "Winterat" RIP
>> 01 Sentra SE "Boremobile"
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of Doug Brashear
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 4:54 PM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Why is it that when I got my 73 SB I never had to
>> turnthekey severa...
>>
>> Just saw you all were talking about this...
>> I have to do the same with my '73 Fasty, but for me it's just 3 times.
>> After
>> the 3rd it starts easily and runs like a champ until I turn it off. I had
>> to
>> do this with the original fuel pump but also have to do it with the brand
>> new Airtex pump I have. My tank has been cleaned and sealed, I have all
>> new
>> hoses, and I'm good about changing the fuel filter. I have an analog,
>> inline
>> fuel pressure gauge on the fuel rail and my fuel pressure readings are
>> right
>> where they should be. It seems that the FI relay is maybe not running the
>> pre-start prime as long as it could. If I just sat there and turned the
>> key
>> on and off several more times I hear the bubbles in the tank coming from
>> the
>> return line.
>> Just thought I'd share since you all were talking about it. Hope all is
>> well
>> with you all!
>> - Doug :-)Falls Church, VA
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