[T3] Noise from the right side cylinder head.

Alex Satala alexsatala at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 22 00:35:18 PDT 2011


So there could be 2 problems , one being the rocker socket not getting oil or 
oil not getting on the right side of the engine. I have some long stock pushrods 
(about 5 pieces so far, still searching...). Can i install long ones on the 
right with no problems?
Ill measure the long rods to see their length. The pushrods were not shortened 
or anything.





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From: Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org>
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 5:04:19 AM
Subject: Re: [T3] Noise from the right side cylinder head.

On 21 Jun 2011 at 8:35, Alex Satala wrote:

> hello , i just finished rebiolding my type 3 engine and i have a problem.
> I have alot of clacking noise from the cylinder heads , especially from the 
> right side, the problem could be because 
> 
> i installed shorter push rods from another engine (i had 4 long ones and 4 
>short 
>
> ones and i only had 8 short ones).

Are the short pushrods standard ones that someone had shortened, or 
are the long ones special long versions for stroker engine?

In general, small changes in length shouldn't make any difference as 
long as you can adjust the valve gaps correctly. If the difference 
gets too extreme, you can get a mismatch between the hole in the end 
of the pushrod and the hole in the rocker socket such that you no 
longer get oil up to the rocker shaft.

If this is a stock displacement engine with stock valve train, it 
might be worthwhile getting a correct set of 8 stock pushrods. I know 
I have bunches of them and I can't be the only one here with lots of 
spares, so they should be cheap. Just make sure they are straight. 
Bent ones show up easily if you try to roll them on a flat table.

> Is there any diference between the cyl. heads (are they left or right 
>orientated 
>
> ?).

As far as the drive train goes they are the same. The FI left heads 
have a place to install a temp sensor, but you can use one of those 
heads on the RHS with no problems.

> The same rods are silent on the left side and i also changed the rockers.
> What is the solution to the clacking noise other than new long push rods?

Check the valve gaps, try some good used pushrods.

Also, as a check, remove the RHS valve cover and have someone run the 
engine while you watch under the engine. You should see oil dripping 
out from that side within a minute of running at medium RPM. If not, 
you have the oil hole mismatch problem, or oil is not getting from 
the left side of the engine case to the right side via the passage 
around the center cam bearing. 

If you remove both valve covers, you could compare oil loss on the 2 
sides. The right side might start a bit later, but it should 
eventually drip almost as much as the left.

Don't do this too long. You don't want to make too much of a mess, 
and you don't want to run the engine out of oil.

Let us know what you find.

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Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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