[T3] Clutch question

crash 69 dhbadeer at gmail.com
Sun Nov 27 11:04:50 PST 2011


It really sounds to me like he's got the wrong cable.  There are many
lengths of cable out there.  One needs to check the correct length (by the
book) in mm, then make sure it's that exact length.  Also, does he have the
correct Bowden tube?

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 2:59 PM, James Lingenfelter
<jimmyandcher at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I know, it really doesn't seem possible. Even if the hook had rotated
> somehow, I still don't think it could account for the cable being 3" too
> short. Is it possible the cable somehow came loose from the hook during the
> clutch change, got hung up on something in the tunnel? Again, he says the
> cable still moves with the pedal. I'm just grasping at straws here.
>
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Daniel K. Du Vall wrote:
>
>  Could be that the shaft has turned inside that the hook is attached to
>> but I would think it would go the other way. IF it had turned that way then
>> with the pedal up you could see that sort of difference in the cable
>> position. Shure could use some pictures. Just not sure how you could turn
>> it in the direction it would need to do that.
>>
>> I have a 74 standard bug I will see if I can get a picture of the pedal
>> assembly it is not currently in the car.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@**lists.vwtype3.org<type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org>[mailto:
>> type3-vwtype3.org-**bounces at lists.vwtype3.org<type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org>]
>> On Behalf Of James Lingenfelter
>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 8:25 AM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Clutch question
>>
>> I'm not sure of that yet.... I need to call him again today and get him
>> to look in there. I'm just not familiar enough with how the pedal assembly
>> goes together..... but is it possible that something is wacked out and the
>> pedal and the lever inside the tunnel are not correctly aligned in relation
>> to each other?
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 11:16 PM, Daniel K. Du Vall wrote:
>>
>>  What the position of the lever that the cable attaches too?
>>> Is it straight up or leaning toward the bell housing or leaning toward
>>> the front of the car?
>>> http://volkswageninsanity.us/**Postings/TRANS.jpg<http://volkswageninsanity.us/Postings/TRANS.jpg>
>>> Your right 1-2 inches is a lot something is not in the right place to
>>> be that far off.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@**lists.vwtype3.org<type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org>[mailto:
>>> type3-
>>> vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.**vwtype3.org<vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org>]
>>> On Behalf Of James Lingenfelter
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 12:14 AM
>>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>>> Subject: Re: [T3] Clutch question
>>>
>>>  It's the same cable, but even if there was something off with the
>>> throwout bearing, how could the cable end up being nearly 3 inches
>>> too short? It seems to me that's significantly more than the entire
>>> travel of the arm.
>>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Daniel K. Du Vall wrote:
>>>
>>>  There should be an adjustable plate on the floor behind the pedal
>>>> assembly that prevents the clutch from falling to the floor toward
>>>> the
>>>> seat.
>>>> Now one idea on the short cable, assuming that it's the same cable
>>>> from before the new clutch, is the throw out bearing is not in its
>>>> proper place or they gave him the wrong one. IIRC wasn't there
>>>> different types depending on if the clutch had the fingers
>>>> directly on
>>>> the bearing or if it had fingers under a washer like pad?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@**lists.vwtype3.org<type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org>[mailto:
>>>> type3-
>>>> vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.**vwtype3.org<vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org>]
>>>> On Behalf Of James
>>>> Lingenfelter
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 12:29 PM
>>>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>>>> Subject: [T3] Clutch question
>>>>
>>>> Forgive me for asking a question about a type I on here, but you guys
>>>> are a wealth of knowledge, and nobody else has been able to answer
>>>> this question: a friend of mine just replaced the clutch in his '70
>>>> Beetle. Now that it's back together with the motor in, the clutch
>>>> cable is 2-3" too short to reach the arm. How is this possible? One
>>>> thing that sounds fishy to me is that he says he can rotate the
>>>> clutch
>>>> pedal all the way BACKWARD onto the floor TOWARD the driver seat.
>>>> Isn't there something within the pedal assembly that should
>>>> absolutely
>>>> prevent this? Is there something screwed up in the pedal assembly?
>>>>   Any help is greatly appreciated, this is his first experience with
>>>> an aircooled VW, so he needs all the help he can get.
>>>>   Thanks,
>>>>    Jimmy
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