[T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034

Craigs List craigslistcsprings at gmail.com
Thu Jun 12 06:51:36 PDT 2014


Yeah, I already have mine choked down to 28mm. The 36's come stock with
30's and the 40's came stock with 34's. Because of the stock engine and
such, I knew both of these options would be to big. The 28's are what
everyone recommends for a stock 1600 with stock heads.

Once again the sticking point is this automatic. Word to the wise, only buy
automatic if you plan to stick 100% stock. If you plan on having ANY fun
just get you a manual.

I think the next thing to do would be to try and bump the displacement up.
Maybe a set of 88mm thick walled pistons to get the engine a little more
low end torque to handle that initial rush from the carbs. This is
something I cannot do now. Just another Idea for another day.

Adam
On Jun 12, 2014 7:44 AM, "Daniel K. Du Vall" <dduvall at 1peter4-10.org> wrote:

> Yes it's in the throat of the carb
>
> http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Dellorto-DRLA-Venturi-28mm-fits-36-40-and-45mm-p/dellorto-drla-venturi-28.htm
> It has the part in it that the fuel sprays out of.
>
> Daniel Du Vall
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034
>
> " I believe that you can change out the entries in those."
>
> Change out the what? Are you talking something in the carb? Please explain.
> I'm still working on my coffee.
>
> Adam
> On Jun 12, 2014 7:35 AM, "Daniel K. Du Vall" <dduvall at 1peter4-10.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I believe that you can change out the entries in those. My 45mm Dells
> > had been choked down to help with that.
> > There is a guy in Arizona who helped me with mine on my bug maybe he
> > would have a suggestion for your combination.
> >
> > His site is http://cevw.com his name was Dan Lawson also Mike fisher
> > works there. They both have lots of knowledge on these.
> >
> > Dan Du Vall
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
> > type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Craigs List
> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:28 AM
> > To: Type 3 List
> > Subject: Re: [T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034
> >
> > Better, but it still will fall on its face at low rpm. I don't have to
> > flutter it off the line as much, but I do still have to flutter it off
> > the line.
> >
> > My next course of action is to blow the car up and start with a
> > manual......or get an lm1 connected to it to see exactly what is
> > happening at low rpm. My suspicion is that 4 throats are filling with
> > air faster than these little heads can deal with it causing a lean
> condition and bog.
> >
> > I'll keep messing with it and report back. I still have some tricks up
> > my sleeve. I just didn't expect this much trouble from a better set of
> carbs.
> > Part of me wants to go back to ict's, but the mileage gain from the
> > Dell's is unreal and will pay for themselves rather quickly...
> >
> > Torn,
> > Adam
> > On Jun 12, 2014 6:53 AM, "Daniel K. Du Vall" <dduvall at 1peter4-10.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So how's it run like this?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
> > > type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Craigs
> > > List
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:13 AM
> > > To: Type 3 List
> > > Subject: Re: [T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034
> > >
> > > It is running like this now. I may even throw the 009 I have in the
> > > garage back in for now. What we found yesterday, much like with only
> > > having one port drilled and tapped for the automatic, is that the
> > > vacuum signal is all over the place.
> > >
> > > We just disconnected the vacuum can and set the timing at 35 degrees
> > > total advance and let the low end fall where it wanted. Before
> > > anyone freaks out, at this elevation we get the advantage of running
> > > more timing without rattling it apart.
> > >
> > > Adam
> > > On Jun 11, 2014 11:23 PM, "Daniel K. Du Vall"
> > > <dduvall at 1peter4-10.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would try what Jim suggested run it without the vacuum advance.
> > > > Most every setup of Dellorto carb I have seen including my 45s I
> > > > ran on my bug used a 009 or one of the MSD.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
> > > > type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Craigs
> > > > List
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:44 PM
> > > > To: Type 3 List
> > > > Subject: Re: [T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034
> > > >
> > > > A few questions;
> > > >
> > > > 1) Am I the first person in the history of type 3's to use
> > > > dellorto carbs on an automatic?
> > > >
> > > > 2) what is the stall of a type 4 torque converter vs a type 3? Or
> > > > are they the same?
> > > >
> > > > 3) how does one get a clean vacuum signal from Dell's to the
> > > > vacuum advance?
> > > >
> > > > Adam
> > > >  On Jun 11, 2014 7:29 PM, "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 11 Jun 2014 at 20:58, Keith Park wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Just a thought, have you tried adjusting the accelerator pump
> > stroke?
> > > > > > I had to do that to get the last little stumble out of the
> > > > > > Crate with the Ethanol.
> > > > >
> > > > > And maybe start by verifying that the accel pump is actually
> working.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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