[T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034

Craigs List craigslistcsprings at gmail.com
Thu Jun 12 07:07:45 PDT 2014


Will do. I'm taking, and using, all of the advice I can get right now. I
appreciate the tip. I will give them a call a little later.

Adam
On Jun 12, 2014 8:01 AM, "Daniel K. Du Vall" <dduvall at 1peter4-10.org> wrote:

> Well I would still say try and call Dan or Mike at Competition
> Engineering. Mike is good with the automatics in performance setups also.
> So he might have an idea or at least say you might have to live with it for
> now.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034
>
> Yeah, I already have mine choked down to 28mm. The 36's come stock with
> 30's and the 40's came stock with 34's. Because of the stock engine and
> such, I knew both of these options would be to big. The 28's are what
> everyone recommends for a stock 1600 with stock heads.
>
> Once again the sticking point is this automatic. Word to the wise, only
> buy automatic if you plan to stick 100% stock. If you plan on having ANY
> fun just get you a manual.
>
> I think the next thing to do would be to try and bump the displacement up.
> Maybe a set of 88mm thick walled pistons to get the engine a little more
> low end torque to handle that initial rush from the carbs. This is
> something I cannot do now. Just another Idea for another day.
>
> Adam
> On Jun 12, 2014 7:44 AM, "Daniel K. Du Vall" <dduvall at 1peter4-10.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes it's in the throat of the carb
> >
> > http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Dellorto-DRLA-Venturi-28mm-fits-36-40-and
> > -45mm-p/dellorto-drla-venturi-28.htm
> > It has the part in it that the fuel sprays out of.
> >
> > Daniel Du Vall
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:39 AM
> > To: Type 3 List
> > Subject: Re: [T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034
> >
> > " I believe that you can change out the entries in those."
> >
> > Change out the what? Are you talking something in the carb? Please
> explain.
> > I'm still working on my coffee.
> >
> > Adam
> > On Jun 12, 2014 7:35 AM, "Daniel K. Du Vall" <dduvall at 1peter4-10.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I believe that you can change out the entries in those. My 45mm
> > > Dells had been choked down to help with that.
> > > There is a guy in Arizona who helped me with mine on my bug maybe he
> > > would have a suggestion for your combination.
> > >
> > > His site is http://cevw.com his name was Dan Lawson also Mike fisher
> > > works there. They both have lots of knowledge on these.
> > >
> > > Dan Du Vall
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > List
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:28 AM
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> > > Subject: Re: [T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034
> > >
> > > Better, but it still will fall on its face at low rpm. I don't have
> > > to flutter it off the line as much, but I do still have to flutter
> > > it off the line.
> > >
> > > My next course of action is to blow the car up and start with a
> > > manual......or get an lm1 connected to it to see exactly what is
> > > happening at low rpm. My suspicion is that 4 throats are filling
> > > with air faster than these little heads can deal with it causing a
> > > lean
> > condition and bog.
> > >
> > > I'll keep messing with it and report back. I still have some tricks
> > > up my sleeve. I just didn't expect this much trouble from a better
> > > set of
> > carbs.
> > > Part of me wants to go back to ict's, but the mileage gain from the
> > > Dell's is unreal and will pay for themselves rather quickly...
> > >
> > > Torn,
> > > Adam
> > > On Jun 12, 2014 6:53 AM, "Daniel K. Du Vall"
> > > <dduvall at 1peter4-10.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > So how's it run like this?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
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> > > > List
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:13 AM
> > > > To: Type 3 List
> > > > Subject: Re: [T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034
> > > >
> > > > It is running like this now. I may even throw the 009 I have in
> > > > the garage back in for now. What we found yesterday, much like
> > > > with only having one port drilled and tapped for the automatic, is
> > > > that the vacuum signal is all over the place.
> > > >
> > > > We just disconnected the vacuum can and set the timing at 35
> > > > degrees total advance and let the low end fall where it wanted.
> > > > Before anyone freaks out, at this elevation we get the advantage
> > > > of running more timing without rattling it apart.
> > > >
> > > > Adam
> > > > On Jun 11, 2014 11:23 PM, "Daniel K. Du Vall"
> > > > <dduvall at 1peter4-10.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I would try what Jim suggested run it without the vacuum advance.
> > > > > Most every setup of Dellorto carb I have seen including my 45s I
> > > > > ran on my bug used a 009 or one of the MSD.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
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> > > > > List
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:44 PM
> > > > > To: Type 3 List
> > > > > Subject: Re: [T3] New Distributor Same Results, 034
> > > > >
> > > > > A few questions;
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Am I the first person in the history of type 3's to use
> > > > > dellorto carbs on an automatic?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) what is the stall of a type 4 torque converter vs a type 3?
> > > > > Or are they the same?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) how does one get a clean vacuum signal from Dell's to the
> > > > > vacuum advance?
> > > > >
> > > > > Adam
> > > > >  On Jun 11, 2014 7:29 PM, "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 11 Jun 2014 at 20:58, Keith Park wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just a thought, have you tried adjusting the accelerator
> > > > > > > pump
> > > stroke?
> > > > > > > I had to do that to get the last little stumble out of the
> > > > > > > Crate with the Ethanol.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And maybe start by verifying that the accel pump is actually
> > working.
> > > > > >
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