[T3] Hard Starting...

Sat Feb 18 16:13:50 PST 2017

Thanks for advice about slightly releasing the key to prevent Hard Starting...that doesn't seem to account for why the hard starting goes to Easy Starting when a Jumper Box is hooked to battery....and that's even when the car battery checks out as Good.
PS:  Yesterday, not too cold out...car was at first resistant...cranking a bit...then starting... BUT with a nice solid mid-range backfire.   That must be a clue to something.  Perhaps fuel related?

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Greetings from Switzerland.

Have you tried releasing the Ignition Key slightly when cranking the engine over ?

It is very common on old VWs for the Ignition Switch to be worn, so that when the Key is held in the position for cranking the engine over to start, the Ignition Contact is no longer made. Release the Key slightly and it starts ! That may not be the fault with yours but I have owned 411, 412 and Type 3s where that was the case.

Regards,

Steve
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 Re/ 71 T-2 Std.?? It's been cold out so maybe some starting
 problems happen...but, my battery checks out Good at the
 Auto Shop.- Once when start attempt got weaker and weaker, a
 neighbor loaned me his Jump Start thing and car started
 right up.- Went home and put battery on overnight
 charge...even though my gravity tester thing showed all
 cells right up to the top.? Started good in the
 morning...with warm battery anyway.- Later that day starting
 got a little sticky again...cranked, cranked, then started.
 That's when I went to get battery checked at an auto store.?
 Battery good.- Next day...hard to start again...but it did.
 So....question is, can there be something funny in the car
 itself that's maybe weakening the battery after sitting
 overnight or even for maybe five hours in daytime???? Any
 way to test for some little juice drainage when car (and
 radio and everything) is off?
 Does success of the Jumper Box tell us that the starter's
 ok?
 Didn't yet put in new clean fuel filter.?? Does that have
 bearing on the case?
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 To test for a parasitic drain:

 Disconnect negative battery terminal from battery. Connect
 your multimeter in series between the negative battery cable
 and the negative battery post. Make sure you connect the
 leads to the meter properly, there's usually a separate jack
 for current measurements. 

 Get in the car, close the doors, make sure everything
 electrical is turned off, then turn your meter on and
 measure the current. Start with A and switch the range to mA
 if the results are low enough. 

 Report back your reading. 

 Note, do not turn ignition on or try to start car or turn on
 any large electrical consumers while doing this test. Most
 meters have an internal 10A fuse, if you try turning
 something on you can blow your meter. 

 Also what is the voltage reading across the battery
 terminals just prior to one of these hard starts?
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