[T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 94, Issue 38

Mon Jul 30 13:59:55 PDT 2018

Yes. Let’s just get back to Type 3 stuff please. 
By the way, don’t know what your “ Super Beetle “ model designations were in the USA but in the UK the Flat Screen models were 1302 ( for the 1300cc ) and 1302 S ( for the 1600cc). Curved Screen models were 1303 ( for the 1300cc ) and 1303 S ( for the 1600cc ).
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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Super beetle with flat windshield (Dennis Stiefel)
  2. Re: Super beetle with flat windshield (Bobnotch)

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 12:26:00 +0000
From: Dennis Stiefel <dad23boys at live.com>
To: "type3 at vwtype3.org" <type3 at vwtype3.org>
Subject: Re: [T3] Super beetle with flat windshield
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> 
> They are different, you need to stick with the Beetle MC.
> 
> This thread started out off-topic but has wandered back into a bit of 
> a grey area. Could we get back to Type 3 subjects now, please?  ;-)
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> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
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Well for me it this information very much effects my type 3 as I have a fair amount of both T1 and T3 parts. It?s nice to know what can interchange and what cannot especially with brakes and the safety aspect of it. But I?ll shut up don?t want to ruffle any more feathers lol.  Thanks for the info. 

Dennis 

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 14:53:16 -0400
From: Bobnotch <bobsnotch at aol.com>
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Super beetle with flat windshield
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Dennis,
Yes, I've done both of the conversions you're wanting to do. My son's 71 flat window Super had
both discs and T-3 drums on it. My daughters 73 curved windshield also had elephant tail lights (big round ones).
First you'll need disc brake adapter plates ( from Top Line), so you can use either Ghia or early Type 3
Calipers (66-71). The rotors are the same (Ghia or early type 3), so that's not a problem.
Rear trailing arms swap, as do the backing plates and drums (direct bolt on). I'd go with a Ghia master cylinder,
as they are designed for use with disc brakes. Some beetle MC's have either residual fittings, or "drillings"
that keep the pressure in the lines for "quick take up" of the drums. Not a problem on the rears,
but up front you can run into issues with the discs.
Use all of the t-3 drum parts, as it'll help keep things balanced.
I hope this helps.
Sorry Jim, now we can go back to being on topic.
Bob

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From: Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org>
To: type3 <type3 at vwtype3.org>
Sent: Sun, Jul 29, 2018 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: [T3] Super beetle with flat windshield

On 29 Jul 2018 at 21:27, Dennis Stiefel wrote:

> The one we have is my brothers. ItTMs a 71 standard flat windshield and
> dose not have elephant foot tail lights. Since you brought this car up I
> do have a type 3 question to tie into the car. I have intergraded some T3
> parts I have into this bug like a steering wheel and e-brake handle were
> different from the original type 1 parts but interchanged and we like the
> way the T3 parts looked. I have some extra type 3 trailing arms with the
> drums and backing plates still with them. WeTMre thinking about adding a
> few more CCs and HPs to the engine when we start going back together.
> ITMd like to upgrade the brakes by a front disk conversion. Instead of a
> rear disk brake conversion ITMve heard that the bigger type 3 rear brakes
> are a cheaper upgrade as opposed to going rear disk. Anyone done this?

Doing a Beetle front drum to Ghia front disk conversion should be
straightforward, since that's what most of those kits were made to do.

Not sure, but a Beetle rear drum to Type 3 rear drum should be just as easy.
I think all you would need to swap are the backing plates, wheel cylinders,
drums, and hubs.

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