[T3] Since I replaced the runner boots and all vacuum lines noticed

William Jahn willjahn975 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 8 10:45:56 PDT 2019

It seems it doesn't take long for the rubber to become hard. My 73 was 12
years old when I got it , it was 13 when i started to drive it a little
still had my old Ford van until 91 when it became my only mode of
transport. . I recall it vibrated the first time I drove it and it seems to
have gotten a little worse since it was just the right window that I could
hear now I hear and feel the left. I don't know the history of this car.
When I first got it off the used car lot where I worked at a small ford
dealership it had that stick on wood panel stuff on both sides yet the
drivers side was dried and cracked and most needed to be sanded off I
removed the right side with a heat gun. It seemed it sat in one place for
some time and that someone who did painting for a living owned it due the
the paint and paint can rings on some of the rear cargo area. I only found
a few VW dealer receipts under the rear seat.  As I said with the engine
idle lower so it would be 850 to 900 RPM in drive the vibration only stood
out idle in drive as soon as I removed my foot off the brake it was gone ,
now it hangs on until I start moving or place it in neutral , I have no
idea what they were like new either, probably better I've only been in one
other type3 a 68 fastback FI stick and it was close to new at the time and
seemed to have good power even with 4 people. I don't see any cracked sub
frame rubber at least from what I can see yet the ones I can get at are
rock hard. I don't know if one can even get replacements or if I care to
deal with replacing them. I think there are 5 , 2 are above the rear
shocks. If I can cure some of it by replacing the rear mounts and lowering
the idle that would be great , the trans mount is another story you can't
remove it without removing the 4 long bolts and lowering the trans end down
quite a bit to slide it off the 2 trans threaded studs.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 7:02 AM Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:

> On 7 Jun 2019 at 19:11, William Jahn wrote:
> > I imagine most people who own these older cars have the
> > original sub frame mounts and even engine and trans mounts.
> :Yes, the rubber mounts, especially the rear subframe bushings, have all
> gotten hard over time, especially on those cars which have lived in hot
> climates. My '69 came from SoCal and its rubber bits are particularly
> hard.
> I've replaced a number of them that were cracked and easy to get to, but a
> lot of them are still the originals.
> That car rattles a lot when stopped in Drive, so I generally shift into N
> if I'm
> going to be stopped for long.
> I never had an AT car when they were new, so I don't know if this is
> entirely
> due to age or if this is just the way they always were. We need to keep in
> mind that vibration isolation engineering in cars has come a LONG ways in
> 50 years. I wouldn't be surprised if VW didn't think much about it back in
> 1960, when these cars were designed, and when they came up with the the
> AT, I'd be surprised if anyone gave a second thought to the possibility
> that
> AT vibration was any different from MT.
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